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Codc
post Nov 10 2007, 03:50 PM | Post #46 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cky @ Nov 10 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]102461[/snapback]

Not all of us play.

Cafebcs, listen man, go walk down to your nearest family-owned and operated business, or anything with a "Now Hiring" sign in the window, go in and ask the nice cashier for a job application, fill said application out accordingly. Now once you get hired somewhere, depending on where you work you will either have to work for one week, or two weeks. Once you get your first paycheck, guess what you can do! Set aside $5 for one month, or if you wanna big a BIG SPENDER set aside $60 so you get to play all year!

Who ever would have thought of that idea?!
O M G. You, sir, are a brilliant man.
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Twilight Ray
post Nov 10 2007, 03:53 PM | Post #47 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(dragunslayr9 @ Nov 10 2007, 10:50 AM) [snapback]102462[/snapback]

my suitemate plays wow. whenever he dies or something bad happens he throws crap around the room and throws a tantrum. thats whats keeping me away from WoW.

:|. PEBKAC.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 10 2007, 05:32 PM | Post #48 +Quote Post

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You missed the point Cry (and that is a good suggestion, I may apply) Jagex cancelled all the anonymous payment for stop the increment of bots on member server. My problem is that I have (or had) the money for spent another year on members and I can't renew :\

About topic, Its a suggestion for update the free servers with member content but making a clear limit betweeen members and free players.

Im waiting the release of gaia battle system and maybe spent on it and rs 50/50. The Halloween event of gaia owned the rs event (said by rs players that were on both events not for me)

http://battle.gaiaonline.com/
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Cky
post Nov 10 2007, 07:14 PM | Post #49 +Quote Post

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I understood none of that.

None.
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Jegz
post Nov 10 2007, 07:15 PM | Post #50 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(dragunslayr9 @ Nov 10 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]102462[/snapback]

my suitemate plays wow. whenever he dies or something bad happens he throws crap around the room and throws a tantrum. thats whats keeping me away from WoW.

lol thats how one of my friends is to. not to metion WoW is expensive
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Makoto
post Nov 10 2007, 07:43 PM | Post #51 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 10 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]102468[/snapback]

About topic, Its a suggestion for update the free servers with member content but making a clear limit betweeen members and free players.


That's just the thing -- it's not going to happen. If you blend the two together, there is no way that there will be anything clear or defined about what a member or a non-member is.

Let's be practical about this. Don't you realize that your idea to make members stuff on free servers will never go anywhere?
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Spiderchild
post Nov 11 2007, 12:55 AM | Post #52 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 10 2007, 05:32 PM) [snapback]102468[/snapback]

"About topic, Its a suggestion for update the free servers with member content but making a clear limit betweeen members and free players."


You are just confirming our arguement; the way free and member servers are currently set out now is fine; it's an incentive for people to purchase membership from Jagex so that they make money.

Your request would make Jagex lsoe money; which they do not want to do, as people are willing to pay money for membership currently, why limit what membership offers as it will simply reduce the amount of members and reduce the amount of money Jagex makes.

The gap between members and free to play does not need to be made smaller, and it never will be.

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Experience Certificates for members skills trained on free player worlds. If you are free player you can keep training and exchange the certificates when you get members back.


So these experience certificates means that if you are level 1 in a member skill you can only do level 1 things; as you do not have the ability to redeem your experience, if you are a free player?

I assume that this means if you are level 99 in that skill you can do level 99 things, but recieve no experience untill you go back to members.

Hence the update benefits people in your situation; people who used to own membership.

Basically; your suggestion is completely wishful thinking Cafe, and seems to benefit you alot more than it benefits Jagex as they would lose alot of money from people who only pay for membership maybe once a year to cash in their certificates.
This suggestion a hope that you can use the maximum potential of your account whilst not having to pay for the privilege which is a stupid thing to expect Jagex to implement.

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Full access to member areas on free player worlds. Minigames and all features accesibles, as being a current member.
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Non-member skill will give experience on members and free player world as usual. The banner (add-on) will be still on free players world. Members worlds will not show a banner.


The most trained skills in Runescape are the combat skills; which are F2P skills.

Your suggestion means that people would be able to use all the armour and benefits to the combat skill that members have, which is a huge incentive to buy membership.
People would be allowed to use the duel arena and castle wars, for free, which are huge incentives to buy membership.
people would be allowed to access the higher reaches of the wilderness which is a huge incentive to buy membership.

Theoretically; you would never have to pay Jagex a dime if you wanted to create an account purely for pking or staking or even "looting"; which if you have ever gone to one of the worlds which Jagex has defined as a pking or staking world, or gone to one of the worlds for the combat based mini-games (which are free now thanks to your update), if you went and counted every person in only the specific place of that worlds theme and counted up how much they would have been paying in membership before your update; you will notice that there are a huge amount of people who subscribe to runescape simply for these features.

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The bank space on members and free players world will be the same. The friend and ignore list will have same capacity and clan chat/rank list will be extended to 200 members on both servers.


Have you not realised that when you lose membership and you cannot put anything in your bank; practically crippling you from playing F2P unless you drop all of your expensive member objects is a deliberate marketing ploy by Jagex; as it means you have to buy membership again if you don't want to lose your stuff.

Making the bank space the same for F2P and members would actually remove quite a few potential subscribers.

In conclusion; your suggestion will never be implemented because it will put a huge dent in Jagex's profits.

Seriously Cafe this update will only benefit you and the few people in your situation; those who used to be a member but cannot purchase membership anymore.

You are a market that is so small that Jagex i'm afraid; does not actually care.

So just buy membership with PayPal, which you can do by simply going to the bank and setting up an account with a debit card; and putting the money for your year in there and then linking it to your PayPal account and stop making crazy suggestions.

And how did you even get the idea that this would be the "Big surprise for 2008?" What even gave you the notion that Jagex would be willing to cripple it's profits to help the few who could not be bothered to set up a paypal account to pay for membership.
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Tangerz
post Nov 11 2007, 01:12 AM | Post #53 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Spiderchild @ Nov 10 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]102483[/snapback]

You are just confirming our arguement; the way free and member servers are currently set out now is fine; it's an incentive for people to purchase membership from Jagex so that they make money.

Your request would make Jagex lsoe money; which they do not want to do, as people are willing to pay money for membership currently, why limit what membership offers as it will simply reduce the amount of members and reduce the amount of money Jagex makes.

The gap between members and free to play does not need to be made smaller, and it never will be.
So these experience certificates means that if you are level 1 in a member skill you can only do level 1 things; as you do not have the ability to redeem your experience, if you are a free player?

I assume that this means if you are level 99 in that skill you can do level 99 things, but recieve no experience untill you go back to members.

Hence the update benefits people in your situation; people who used to own membership.

Basically; your suggestion is completely wishful thinking Cafe, and seems to benefit you alot more than it benefits Jagex as they would lose alot of money from people who only pay for membership maybe once a year to cash in their certificates.
This suggestion a hope that you can use the maximum potential of your account whilst not having to pay for the privilege which is a stupid thing to expect Jagex to implement.
The most trained skills in Runescape are the combat skills; which are F2P skills.

Your suggestion means that people would be able to use all the armour and benefits to the combat skill that members have, which is a huge incentive to buy membership.
People would be allowed to use the duel arena and castle wars, for free, which are huge incentives to buy membership.
people would be allowed to access the higher reaches of the wilderness which is a huge incentive to buy membership.

Theoretically; you would never have to pay Jagex a dime if you wanted to create an account purely for pking or staking or even "looting"; which if you have ever gone to one of the worlds which Jagex has defined as a pking or staking world, or gone to one of the worlds for the combat based mini-games (which are free now thanks to your update), if you went and counted every person in only the specific place of that worlds theme and counted up how much they would have been paying in membership before your update; you will notice that there are a huge amount of people who subscribe to runescape simply for these features.
Have you not realised that when you lose membership and you cannot put anything in your bank; practically crippling you from playing F2P unless you drop all of your expensive member objects is a deliberate marketing ploy by Jagex; as it means you have to buy membership again if you don't want to lose your stuff.

Making the bank space the same for F2P and members would actually remove quite a few potential subscribers.

In conclusion; your suggestion will never be implemented because it will put a huge dent in Jagex's profits.

Seriously Cafe this update will only benefit you and the few people in your situation; those who used to be a member but cannot purchase membership anymore.

You are a market that is so small that Jagex i'm afraid; does not actually care.

So just buy membership with PayPal, which you can do by simply going to the bank and setting up an account with a debit card; and putting the money for your year in there and then linking it to your PayPal account and stop making crazy suggestions.

And how did you even get the idea that this would be the "Big surprise for 2008?" What even gave you the notion that Jagex would be willing to cripple it's profits to help the few who could not be bothered to set up a paypal account to pay for membership.


A very well thought out post by Spiderchild, fully explaining each area of discussion. This makes for a clear cut arguement (which, I think, is exactly why this idea is total crap in the first place)
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Cafebcs
post Nov 11 2007, 08:14 AM | Post #54 +Quote Post

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Well, this explain why get members... but I let all to jagex and to the time.

The time will give me the reason happy.gif
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Codc
post Nov 11 2007, 03:38 PM | Post #55 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 11 2007, 03:14 AM) [snapback]102497[/snapback]

Well, this explain why get members... but I let all to jagex and to the time.

The time will give me the reason happy.gif
LE SIGH.

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Baakalor
post Nov 11 2007, 06:45 PM | Post #56 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 11 2007, 03:14 AM) [snapback]102497[/snapback]

Well, this explain why get members... but I let all to jagex and to the time.

The time will give me the reason happy.gif

Whaaaaaat?
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Makoto
post Nov 11 2007, 09:39 PM | Post #57 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 11 2007, 01:14 AM) [snapback]102497[/snapback]

Well, this explain why get members... but I let all to jagex and to the time.

The time will give me the reason happy.gif

The features (duel arena, extended skills, bank space and other perks) are why you pay for members. Bringing all of those perks and then some to freeplay will incline players to not pay as much. It won't do anything positive for the game at all; it'll actually make it ten times worse.

Here's the reasoning behind that.

Jagex makes money based on the number of subscriptions it gets monthly. [Don't breathe a word about ads because compared to a single month subscription, it'd probably take 750 players clicking the ads to equal one month of members.] With that money, they can:
  • Buy servers
  • Hire more staff
  • Afford their own companies expenses
  • Pay salary
  • Able to invest money in other markets [Mechscape]

Your idea won't work, because it takes the potential money right out of Jagex's hands, while giving you (and others) a free pass to do whatever the hell they please as Members on Freeplay, without ever giving a dime to Jagex. It takes away the incentive to pay to play the game, and it sure as hell cheapens the effect of earning so many levels on Members, just to have some Freeplayer that was too lazy to ask for some allowance from his parents, too lazy to do chores, or too frugal to spend $19.95 for three months of Members benefits, do just that without so much as having a dime leave his pocket.

Get your bank together and just pay for the damn service like the rest of us.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 12 2007, 03:59 AM | Post #58 +Quote Post

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You see it from the programmer side, I'm a programmer too.

From the player experience side (as f2p player that made 1018 total level only with f2p skills and actually 1856 total level getting almost mining 90 and runecraft 77 on f2p) with construction 81, and other awesome skills etc. (and having a big rs family getting members everyday) I can say a bit of what I think about both, p2p and f2p.

You are focusing on jagex side, on what he does etc. Other sites does too and they tries to be competence for jagex. Look at syrnia, they almost copied all of rs, other sites offers to be free forever and ect.

I'm looking and suggesting to jagex as his loyal costumer. The costume have the reason, says the people. I'm sure this suggestion (I sended it to them using the costume support system) if at least make to think to jagex on offer a better service then it done its job.

If a miracle happens and jagex have unlimited money (or assistance) without need to get money from his members it could be a good suggestion. Try think of it with calm, I took time on formule it.

Don't think on money >.<
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Tangerz
post Nov 12 2007, 04:05 AM | Post #59 +Quote Post

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The thing is, the world revolves on money.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 12 2007, 04:18 AM | Post #60 +Quote Post

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Im like 70% idealist, I believe on the world peace, someday.
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