Cafebcs

Nov 4 2007, 08:59 PM | Post #1

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A Really Big Suggestion
Maybe the Surprise for 2008
By Cafebcs

* Presentation

"From the player experience side (as f2p player that made 1018 total level only with f2p skills and actually 1856 total level getting almost mining 90 and runecraft 77 on f2p) with construction 81, and other awesome skills etc. (and having a big rs family getting members everyday) I can say a bit of what I think about both, p2p and f2p.

I'm looking and suggesting to jagex as his loyal costumer. The costume have the reason, says the people. I'm sure this suggestion (I sended it to them using the costume support system) if at least make to think to jagex on offer a better service then it done its job.

If a miracle happens and jagex have unlimited money (or assistance) without need to get money from his members it could be a good suggestion. Try think of it with calm, I took time on formule it.

Don't think on money >.<"

* Introduction

"My point is that if member updates are on both servers then member servers could be less crowded, making to jagex works more on the quality of the member service.

Runescape, as product, could worth more with a massive population than only free members that pays for a expansion. Im sure lots of players of another regions of the world could test runescape just because the quality of member updates. But those updates are limited to members and they (the non players) only see the space that is in the free worlds."

* Prologue

"Member worlds for members, free worlds restricted on experience (getting certificates of the skill trained) but playing like a normal member (except on carry the certificates on inventory). Those certificates get exchangeable on member worlds for members.

I found out that the important of runescape is the people that plays there and not the stuff of being member or not. It just was on the way that someone was worried about the crowed member worlds and I ended with this solution. It really was writing thinking of good faith and not thinking about my actual condition of player (being forced to pay with card or no membership)

I dissagre on keep people cautive because they can lost membership. I gave my items to my friends before be non member without know that I was not able of renew by bank transfer. I know of players that quitted because they didn't want the reality of become free players. For me membership is not an status, it just an expansion of the free worlds.

And Im worried about jagex ends closing free worlds too (or make it shorter like a trial game or tutorial island)"

* Suggestion

"Experience Certificates for members skills trained on free player worlds. If you are free player you can keep training and exchange the certificates when you get members back.

Experience certificates are non-tradeable. They only can be exchanged on members world. Members worlds gives the experience directly.

Full access to member areas on free player worlds. Minigames and all features accesibles, as being a current member.

You get the items but not the experience at doing quests. The skill rewards on free worlds are turned into experience certificates.

Your current member skills are useable on free player worlds. However the experience at use those skills will give experience certificates.

If you die carrying experience certificates you lose them. They stockeable but you will need space on inventory for every member skill you train on free worlds.

Any wish using a lamp or a tome on a member skill will give a experience certificate. Those needs be saved bank because if you die you lose them (said above)

The bank space on members and free players world will be the same. The friend and ignore list will have same capacity and clan chat/rank list will be extended to 200 members on both servers.

Houses will be accesible on free worlds, but construction training will give stockeable certificates. Free players needs go member worlds for exchange the certificates on experience.

Non-member skill will give experience on members and free player world as usual. The banner (add-on) will be still on free players world. Members worlds will not show a banner.

Only players that pays membership can access to both kind of servers. Members can train on free worlds and exchange certificates when back to a member server."

I Add:

"Please be nice with your comments."

Cafebcs © 2007. Made at Nov 4, 2007. Backup at TIP.IT
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Post Quoted by: Donkey Kong, Makoto, Spiderchild, Mysticallity...
I done saying what I needed to say.

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Nov 17 2007, 11:05 PM

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Makoto

Nov 4 2007, 09:29 PM | Post #2

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I'll try to be nice, but I can't necessarily hold back that you overlooked one key element of your suggestion.

They all involve the training/use of members-only items/skills on freeplay.

This is something that Jagex themselves said they would not even be considering, as per their sticky in the official forums ("Do Not Suggest").

While your suggestion in itself isn't bad, it won't happen since it's not practical. Read up on what not to suggest over at the RSoF, if you would.

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Spiderchild

Nov 5 2007, 12:21 AM | Post #3

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Stop trying to get free/anonymous members Cafebcs and put som emoney into paypal.
Or get one of your "Family" to buy you members and you pay them.

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Dark Angel

Nov 5 2007, 12:41 AM | Post #4

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I doubt this would be an update because if they did thsi why would people buy members when they could simply go f2p and still get the same featues?

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dragunslayr9

Nov 5 2007, 12:53 AM | Post #5

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Sounds like an update that would benefit you, and maybe like 4 other people in the world.

And why would a member willingly train on a f2p world? It's crowded on members servers, but its even more crowded on a f2p server.

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Tangerz

Nov 5 2007, 01:15 AM | Post #6

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QUOTE(dragunslayr9 @ Nov 4 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]102139[/snapback]

Sounds like an update that would benefit you, and maybe like 4 other people in the world.

And why would a member willingly train on a f2p world? It's crowded on members servers, but its even more crowded on a f2p server.

It's more the reason as he could go on a f2p server, be in a member area with no one around. Kind of like going to Seers and cutting Magic trees without anyone to steal your tree. Or securing a training spot by yourself.

And Dark Angel,

he means buying members, and if you have members, then you can train the skills you would as a member on a free world.

He's just mad that they won't accept his transfer.

HEHEHEHAHHAHEHEHEHHOHOHO

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dragunslayr9

Nov 5 2007, 01:32 PM | Post #7

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QUOTE(Tangerz @ Nov 4 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]102140[/snapback]

It's more the reason as he could go on a f2p server, be in a member area with no one around. Kind of like going to Seers and cutting Magic trees without anyone to steal your tree. Or securing a training spot by yourself.

...so like every world is a members world, and people who haven't payed can't access the rest of it?

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Cafebcs

Nov 5 2007, 08:06 PM | Post #8

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Member worlds for members, free worlds restricted on experience (getting certificates of the skill trained) but playing like a normal member (except on carry the certificates on inventory). Those certificates get exchangeable on member worlds for members.

QUOTE

He's just mad that they won't accept his transfer.

that hurts

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Donkey Kong

Nov 5 2007, 09:32 PM | Post #9

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A little too worried about yourself cafe?


-DK

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Cafebcs

Nov 5 2007, 09:44 PM | Post #10

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We should be worried... we don't know what is jagex thinking.

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Donkey Kong

Nov 5 2007, 09:52 PM | Post #11

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 4 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]102128[/snapback]

Experience Certificates for members skills trained on free player worlds. If you are free player you can keep training and exchange the certificates when you get members back.

* Be nice with your comments.

Thats all I got from your suggestion.
100% of it Concerns you.
You make less then 1% of the media or play base of Runescape.
Im not being mean.
Im being realistic
Thanks


-DK

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Baakalor

Nov 5 2007, 11:12 PM | Post #12

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So let me get this straight: You want to be able to spend 11 months training and getting experience on F2P (including access to all members benefits), pay for a month of members, cash in your "experience certificates," and go back to F2P for another 11 months thereby depriving JAGeX of the members revenue they would normally get from you?

Yeah, that's gonna happen.....not.

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Cafebcs

Nov 6 2007, 04:15 AM | Post #13

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I found out that the important of runescape is the people that plays there and not the stuff of being member or not. It just was on the way that someone was worried about the crowed member worlds and I ended with this solution. It really was writing thinking of good faith and not thinking about my actual condition of player (being forced to pay with card or no membership)

I dissagre on keep people cautive because they can lost membership. I gave my items to my friends before be non member without know that I was not able of renew by bank transfer. I know of players that quitted because they didn't want the reality of become free players. For me membership is not an status, it just an expansion of the free worlds.

And Im worried about jagex ends closing free worlds too (or make it shorter like a trial game or tutorial island)

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Tangerz

Nov 6 2007, 02:33 PM | Post #14

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Look, Runescape membership is a status. It means you are able to do more stuff than a free player could and ever will do. JAGeX is rich enough to create new worlds so in case of overcrowding, obviously they will do that.

Just because you're not a member doesn't mean that you can't still play.

Just get someone else to pay for you, probably one of the 1000 members of your RS family.

Since they're your RS family, I'm sure they can trust you and you can trust them.

If you're worried about being banned, only stupid people get banned.

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Cafebcs

Nov 6 2007, 06:33 PM | Post #15

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They trust me stuff (on members a friend trusted me a full dragon, whip and other accesories) and on f2p my rs bro trusted me a mask and I gave it back when he wanted it. They know that I play fair and they believe that I have 0 blackmarks on all my accounts (I can post a scrennie if you want it)

I play fair also I live fair on real life. I will not change that. Like Makoto said its not fair to give a link to paypal and ask to donate. Im not so desesperate to back to members, none of my family is worried about if I back or not, they know the important stuff is keep as family and not the membership.

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