Iamanarab

Nov 4 2006, 09:07 PM | Post #61

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well, flame me for being the devils advocate, but in a round-about way, yuo could argue that the first site to make dynamic sigs could argue you are all ripping them off, so, think about how they feel,?

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Rupert

Nov 4 2006, 09:26 PM | Post #62

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Nico has asked me to post this for him.

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Ok, I'm tired of this bull about my signatures, so I'll clear a few things up for all of you people at Runeweb.net, aight?

First of all, I created my first dynamic sig script back in 2003, back then I didn't even know of Runeweb's existance, thus I didn't get flamed at, wonder why? Now when I decided to re-code my dynamic signature script, I asked my friend to create me a good layout, I'm in a process of creating multiple new backgrounds, color options, maybe changing the whole layout? Who knows, but I won't do it because you idiots think I stole your sig idea.

And for you people who flamed me on IRC about how I stole the SCRIPT? Get your facts right. I coded my signatures by hand, and as I said earlier, the layout was a favour, I'll change the stats order alright, I was thinking about doing that anyways when I was on our irc server talking about this whole 'situation'.

Ok, maybe my friend copied the stats icon order, but the character? It's a RUNESCAPE sig, and they are RUNESCAPE characters, so if someone makes a signature, types their stats in and put his/her character into the right side of the signature? Will you go on a deadly hunt after him? NO.

Maybe you're just afraid that my website will manage to grow rapidly and maybe get more attention than your signatures? Perhaps..

I'll see what I do with the layout, but remember, it is not because of your signatures, it's because I want it changed.

This post has been edited by Makoto: Nov 4 2006, 09:27 PM

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Cky

Nov 4 2006, 09:33 PM | Post #63

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Okay, to my knowledge, no one flamed you on irc saying you stole the script, at least I didn't.

Second of all, we at least a a good amount of people on our forum, and on our irc channel, we get on your IRC channel, and WHOA A WHOLE 7 PEOPLE. So maybe your just envious of us and thats why you might have copied the layout for our sigs? Perhaps..

So I don't know who Nico is, I don't care. You can think whatever you, "Oh you don't have a basis for an argument" Like I said I don't code, I might be wrong, and probably am, I just wasn't happy with the sigs used on the forums.

So please, be quiet, sit down, and have a glass of water to calm your nerves.

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Iamanarab

Nov 4 2006, 09:36 PM | Post #64

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QUOTE(Cky @ Nov 5 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]77597[/snapback]

Okay, to my knowledge, no one flamed you on irc saying you stole the script, at least I didn't.

Second of all, we at least a a good amount of people on our forum, and on our irc channel, we get on your IRC channel, and WHOA A WHOLE 7 PEOPLE. So maybe your just envious of us and thats why you might have copied the layout for our sigs? Perhaps..

So I don't know who Nico is, I don't care. You can think whatever you, "Oh you don't have a basis for an argument" Like I said I don't code, I might be wrong, and probably am, I just wasn't happy with the sigs used on the forums.

So please, be quiet, sit down, and have a glass of water to calm your nerves.

they need to calm down? i think you do, you're making a big deal out of nothing. also, what you havent noticed is its a new site, they dont have a forum yet, and its not up and running? see the difference between them and runeweb? good, please stop being a moron and being so nieve. Nico is the head-coder for the sigs, if you have a problem, you should be bringing it up with him, and talking to him instead of pissing and moaning here instead of doing something

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Rupert

Nov 4 2006, 09:41 PM | Post #65

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I've been flamed by Cky in IRC for trying to express my opinion, so evidently it is him who needs to calm down.

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Cky

Nov 4 2006, 09:43 PM | Post #66

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Okay listen up Big Man, I never wanted to make a big deal out of anything, I am not the only one who supports this post, I just posted my feelings one night because I was bored, and then other people made a big deal about it. I only started getting fumed because these two guys show up in IRC and try to act tough through a computer screen.

So think about what you post next time

This post has been edited by Cky: Nov 4 2006, 09:43 PM

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Nawzlew

Nov 4 2006, 09:45 PM | Post #67

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Good point(s) there, Cky.

This post has been edited by Nawzlew: Nov 4 2006, 09:45 PM

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Iamanarab

Nov 4 2006, 09:47 PM | Post #68

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i do think about what i post. the thing that annoys me with you, is you're so seemingly ignorant that you think your opinion is the only, and correct one. while i agree you're not the only one who supports your opinion, you are oblivious to the fact thatthere are others who also support the opinion that the sigs are better/easier to look at etc. You seem to me to also be trying to act like a big man through the internet, so stop being so hypocritical and cool it

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Makoto

Nov 4 2006, 09:50 PM | Post #69

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First of all, the sigs with characters on it dont even have the construction skill on it. Secondly, the prayer icon is now silver instead of gold. And lastly i think the sig is too crammed. I suggest it be spread out more like the draynor ones. Also more selection of sigs won't hurt either. Those are my suggestions

Supa wasn't able to add those icons due to a real life situation. He's not been back for a while, so I was asked by him to start work on the newer sigs. The only real problem with adding more icons is that Jagex is releasing another skill near the end of the month, and I don't want our sigs to be more outdated than they already are!

3. The reason the sigs are so small is that size DOES matter when it comes to forums.





These are typical signature sizes and averages for both communities. I'm not aware of all forum limitations, but due to larger traffic and volume, they like to keep their signatures small. An average filesize of 20kb will bog down forums more than an average of 14kb, so people warm up to using our signatures more than likely.

Next, there's the situation of bandwidth. We're pushing the limits as to what we can afford per month. We don't have ads or ask for contributions, so someone pays out of their own pocket and the kindness of their hearts. The smaller our sigs are, the less bandwidth we're going to eat up, the less out of pocket expense.

We offer eleven signatures, six of which are "class" based. Our variations in this are limited because of how fast our staff can update these signatures, and the bandwidth issue as well.

I might be able to spread out the icons a little bit, but personally I don't believe that mimicking another fansites signature formation would help any. I'm the kind of person that wants to stick to tradition.

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Baakalor

Nov 4 2006, 09:51 PM | Post #70

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I am not saying that anyone has ripped off anyone else and frankly, it's the Internet. Crap like that happens all the time. Anyone can claim they made theirs or coded theirs first. It would be damn difficult to prove it one way or the other. Are they similar? Yes. Was one copied from the other? Maybe. Then again, maybe not. We'll never know and I highly doubt anything would be admitted one way or the other.

Getting all riled up over signatures is pointless. Going to their IRC channel and harrassing them does nothing but generate hard feelings. I would hope the members of RuneWeb have more sense than that.

I happen to think that using that particular signature here is disrespectful simply because it is so similar. If you'll notice, there have been other dynamic sigs used here and this debate never came up.

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Cky

Nov 4 2006, 09:53 PM | Post #71

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Okay, I even brought up the whole fact that not everyone likes the sigs, I even offered to make a poll to make the craziness stop.

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Deathbyape

Nov 4 2006, 10:48 PM | Post #72

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Well, there was a big discussion in IRC and Nico(the owner of Draynor) turned out to be an ok guy. He said he understood that they were similar and why we were upset and said he would be willing to rearrange the layout.

<Deathbyape> Can you or can you not see the similarities between our signatures and yours?
<Nico> Deathbyape, yes, I can.

<Deathbyape> Can you or can you not see why people here would be upset?
<Nico> I never told anyone to not be upset.
<Deathbyape> But can you see why they would be?
<Nico> Deathbyape
<Nico> Yes, I can.

<Baak> Hey Nico? How hard would it be to change the layout? Like maybe spread the Level, Overall, Rank, and EXP across the bottom and shuffle the stats to fill in the gap.
<Nico> Baak, not hard, I was thinking of making a new layout earlier on my IRC, but I will keep the char on the right side as I think it has to have something that looks runescapeish

<Baak> I did suggest a solution and Nico said it is doable and not hard.
<Makoto> Nico, how hard would it be to move a few things around so that people don't get riled up due to their appearance to RW?
<Baak> So what do you say Nico? Worth a shot to eliminate all this?
<Nico> Baak, *sigh* probably.
<Nico> But I won't change it much.
<Nico> Since I like the way it looks.
<Nico> And so do others.
<Makoto> Well, there's one thing down
<Nico> And If i mix it up too much, it goes too big.
<Tangerz> goes too big?
<Baak> I don't think much is called for. I was just thinking of maybe the parts I mentioned shifted about the top or bottom.
<Nico> Tangerz, in reso.
<Tangerz> .
<Tangerz> flip horizontal, sorted.
<Nico> Hmm..
<Tangerz> vertical*
<Nico> O,o
<Nico> That wouldn't change anything.

So as you can see, everyone seems to be cooperating and this is close to being resolved.

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Loggy

Nov 5 2006, 03:18 AM | Post #73

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So things are being sorted out, and the rest of this is pretty much up to staff. This discussion is about done with, I don't see anything else coming out of it but more hard feelings, so I'll close this, unless another mod has a better reason for opening it.

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