 Sounds, Interfaces, And Skill Tutors, RuneScape Update: 27th September 2006 |
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 Sep 28 2006, 02:56 AM | Post #16 |
 
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QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]74297[/snapback]
Player Interfaces
...This is were I start to get ticked. I know that people may say change is a good thing and "I will get used to it" and all that other crap... but Jagex just made Runescape UGLY!!!!! The colors look like... well.... they look like crap. Jagex has degraded themselves so much with just the colors. Everything looks very old and rundown as if they don't even care how the game looks. So this part of my rant includes the stats menu and all the little buttons that are on the menu parts of the screen as well.
I'm not enjoying that having to hover your mouse over things in the combat menu or every menu for that fact just to find out which skill I'm training. I would rather have it all written out where I can see it easily.
"Very old and rundown"? If you hadn't noticed, the inventory images up until the update were taken mostly from RSC. That's "old". Another thing is that if it didn't have colour, it wouldn't be interesting.
The funny thing is that this includes mostly the run button interface: You don't have to click on the nob to get it to work. Just hold Control down and you'll start dashing. What's so hard about that?
The colour thing would take a bit of getting used to. It's not great, but I'm not really going to complain about it.
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]74297[/snapback]
That goes for the emote menu as well. Jagex has given the argument that it's difficult to translate the game into a different language because the German words are longer than English words. I can see their reasoning but do not agree. Runescape is a game of learning, of worlds merging into one. I've heard of many people learning and improving upon their english skills just by playing Runescape. Dividing the game and making seperate versions just won't be good.
The emote page isn't bad; I kinda like seeing avatars performing the emotes before I click on it.
I fall into kind of a murky inbetween water here; I agree with you to the extent that everyone that wants to play an English game should know English, yet I'd wish there WAS RuneScape in different languages. I'd think that would be interesting to see.
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]74297[/snapback]
1) I'm really mad how they added a bank at the top of lumbridge!!!
I know it might be useful for the f2p but the p2p already had a bank!!! It was called do the Recipie for Disaster Quest! 
Two banks in almost the exact same location... what a stupid idea!2) I don't really care about all the other things up until the free teleport. Oh... this one pissed me off pretty bad. Being lost in Runescape and not know what to do or where to go is part of playing Runescape (which also hints to my point that skill tutors shouldn't even be there) But anyway.... I had quit Runescape for almost 2 years because of the fact that I got lost and couldn't find my way back to civilization!
Another thing about the teleport, it's free!!!!
Isn't that one of the reasons Jagex took out dueling everywhere in Runescape classic because people were using dueling to teleport to lumbridge!?!?!Oh yea and another thing in general about the skill tutors.... phr33 st00f pl0x!!!! How about NO!! Items are too easily to get in Runescape as it is. No need for all this free stuff. Jagex are just encouraging beggers to continue begging to get all their items. They need to know how to work for their items so they know the true value. If not, they're just going to go run off and die with it just so they can beg again and get it back.
1. I wholeheartedly agree with you, but even sometimes you have to give a little to get a little. The Culinaromancer's Chest was a bit tricky to reach, and it didn't offer much incentive to (unless you mined in Dorgeshuun).
2. Free teleport? Nothing wrong with that in my book. We all get lost sometimes; you just took your frustration a bit too far and went off to do something else for 2 years. I don't know why "duelling anywhere" was removed, but I don't think it was because of a free teleport.
3. Who cares if the skill tutors give them free stuff...all it means is that they'll bother me LESS. The stuff isn't that bad, but it's not that good, so no harm done. Also, when you first come into Lumbridge, you'd like to have a bit of stuff to get started, and there's nothing wrong with that. Hell, I wish I had a shield and sword that was better than bronze fresh off Tutorial Island...
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]74297[/snapback]
Just to sum all my ranting up.... Jagex has dumbed down runescape terribly!!!!!
Unless you can find a way to make it better than it was before and now, you have no argument to back yourself here.
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All in all, it sums up to this: Get used to it or leave. In a sense it's like RS2's update; a lot of people didn't like it so they left. Same principle applies here.
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Sep 28 2006, 04:38 AM | Post #17 |
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And btw, what does dumbing down RS have to do with anything? It was never created for those of necessary intelligence. The game is put here as a past-time, if you're confused, and don't really understand, how are you to enjoy?
This post has been edited by gnomer15: Sep 28 2006, 04:40 AM
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Sep 28 2006, 09:14 PM | Post #18 |
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I was pretty mad at the time a wrote that post so sorry if it's not my "usual self". Never the less, I still hold firm on on my beliefs about the update. Btw when I meant "old and rundown" it was more of a rundown type deal. I like the simple plain looking images from classic. You are correct that the icons did look very similar to the ones in classic. They were simplistic and I didn't really see any need to change them.
Oh, and I have to comment on the run button again. Yes, I've known about the ctrl+click thing to make your character run for a long time and I often used it. There are some instances though in RS that I can't be bothered to have to hit the ctrl button and then actually click. I would rather just have my character run automatically. Also, I have to hit the ctrl button and click again if I'm walking rather before you can just click the run button.
I've read the RS forums were they mentioned the run button actually be exceptionally larger than the previous one. I had known that you could click on the little running man as well to turn on this option. But what agrivates me is they changed the window it appears in (that doesn't bother me too much, I just have to retrain myself to click a new tab) But I don't like the fact that they put an option which would be use so frequently as far as possible from the button to access it.
I realise that it might sound a little childish or say I'm lazy because I have to "just click once more" or "move the mouse a little farther" but it annoyes me that all these little inconveniencies build up one on top of the other.
I'm still rather angry with all the free stuff being given to the new players. Nothing will change my mind on this issue. Yes, when I was a new player and had just gotten of Tutorial island, I too wished for some free stuff. I never went around asking for it as when I started there were hardly many people playing runescape as it was much less finding someone to give you free items. I learned to work for what I wanted and I'm still a zealous believer in that.
As for my final comment I made about "dumbing down runescape" I just don't like the whole fact of having to think in pictures. I'm a person who likes to think in words. With the pictures I have to think of what the picture means in words then apply a meaning. I know that sounds very strange but yea...... lol!
Btw Ted, you hit the nail on the head just about. This is probably one of the strangest posts with flaming that I've ever made
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Sep 29 2006, 06:38 PM | Post #19 |
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Great addition even though I do not use sounds. I couldnt really compare it to the way sound was before but the new sounds seem decent. More realistic anyway. Sound always was a department that Runescape does not excel in.
Player Interfaces:
This will take a bit to get used to but I like it better than before. I agree with Pat though. The skill list does not look as good with orange text and the skill pictures do seem more faded and rundown. Dont know why they even wanted to change it, I liked the yellow before.
The combat interface is a little nicer but I do not like to hover my mouse over to see what im training either. Thye should just have little text under it that says either (Attack) (Strength) (Defence) or (Shared).
Skill Tutors:
Well, I dont have much of an opinion on them. Jagex is just trying to make the game even easier for players. Hopefully that will help some players and make less hastle toward player mods.
Making another bank in lumbridge was a stupid idea. There was already a great one if you did rfd. I like how there is more rocks to mind in lumbridge swamp and I havnt seen the signposts yet but they seem better. The newcomer map serioulsy did need more info on it and im glad they added it. This free teleport is handy though when u are somewhere and u forget tele runes and have no other way back besides walking. I love the +1 and +2 strength bonus on adam and rune boots though. Very nice.
Overall, this was a good weak. Lots of good updates, few bad but will be able to get used to them.
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Sep 30 2006, 02:22 AM | Post #20 |
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It seems a bit pointless to have a whole separate menu for emotes; how many people actually use them?
But really, other than having to make a few slight changes in the way I navigate the menus, this update really doesn't affect me a whole lot... nor should it really make much of a difference for everyone else.
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Sep 30 2006, 08:07 AM | Post #21 |
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QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]74367[/snapback]
Never the less, I still hold firm on on my beliefs about the update. Btw when I meant "old and rundown" it was more of a rundown type deal. I like the simple plain looking images from classic. You are correct that the icons did look very similar to the ones in classic. They were simplistic and I didn't really see any need to change them.
Some were okay, but some were pretty cartoonish. If I said I liked this version better, I'd be lying. There wasn't any real need for a change, unless Jagex had to add the emotes and they went "What the heck, we'll just update every button because they look old compared to these awesomeness!" Then again, it's not much to care about, except the decision to make text out of tangerines.
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]74367[/snapback]
Oh, and I have to comment on the run button again. Yes, I've known about the ctrl+click thing to make your character run for a long time and I often used it. There are some instances though in RS that I can't be bothered to have to hit the ctrl button and then actually click. I would rather just have my character run automatically. Also, I have to hit the ctrl button and click again if I'm walking rather before you can just click the run button.
I think a simple option would be to make ctrl toggle run or walk. Anyway, I use Ctrl most of the time, so I'm not really bothered about the run button.
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]74367[/snapback]
I realise that it might sound a little childish or say I'm lazy because I have to "just click once more" or "move the mouse a little farther" but it annoyes me that all these little inconveniencies build up one on top of the other.
You'll be accustomed to them one day so, not much use complaining when it's new.
QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 28 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]74367[/snapback]
I'm still rather angry with all the free stuff being given to the new players. Nothing will change my mind on this issue. Yes, when I was a new player and had just gotten of Tutorial island, I too wished for some free stuff. I never went around asking for it as when I started there were hardly many people playing runescape as it was much less finding someone to give you free items. I learned to work for what I wanted and I'm still a zealous believer in that.
It's not as if they are any good. Free runes and arrows are limited to one of them and 30 minutes. Training-wise, it's not very helpful. It does give a little boost to the new players though.
Anyway, free stuff existed from RSC beyond. It only takes a little bit of patience; respawning items anyone?
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Sep 30 2006, 10:00 AM | Post #22 |
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Sep 30 2006, 06:19 PM | Post #23 |
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QUOTE(patrico12345 @ Sep 28 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]74367[/snapback]
I'm still rather angry with all the free stuff being given to the new players. Nothing will change my mind on this issue. Yes, when I was a new player and had just gotten of Tutorial island, I too wished for some free stuff. I never went around asking for it as when I started there were hardly many people playing runescape as it was much less finding someone to give you free items. I learned to work for what I wanted and I'm still a zealous believer in that.
Count yourself lucky you even got tutorial island. I picked my class and look and got instantly launched into the game.
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