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Iamanarab
post Jul 5 2006, 08:15 AM | Post #1 +Quote Post

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Good Morning/Evening/Afternoon

I am Iamanarab, And IRL, MY name is Lee, im 15, and i hail From New Zealand. I've Played Rs since RSC, when i was known as jggy48, on which i finished all f2p quests, bar Dragon Slayer, and was at level 19 before i quit. I started playing 2 Months before the Bunny Ears were dropped, and i had a pair, however i sono quit, and the accoutn was lost. On July 4, 2004, I started my New Account, and from there, suffering through the hardships of my name, rose to 103 Combat, and 1412 Skill total, I also remember the time Jagex Introduced Dragon Bones. I decided to quit RS 8 days short of my 2 year playing time

I said the above to show that im not a blubbering idiot, and i know what im talking about.

When i first started in RSC, i was not very rich, or high leveled, but i played through, and finally gave up, becasue it got boring, on the positive side however, It was a very nice atmosphere, where everyone was nice to each other, and most were willing to give up their personal time to help another.

However, when i joined "RS2", i was, to say the least, dissapointed with how RS had become, The First post jagex made on the home page was that they had got 42,000 people on at once, and this was a big thing. The population of Rs, from there rocketed up, and this is where the community began to degrade. I don't blame Miniclip for this, as many of you do. The community now, especially f2p, for the most part, was a bunch of inconsiderate, immature <Censored>.

I started to change my opinion of RS when i met a few of my now, best RS mates, these people seemed to alone, to me anyway, rise above the rest of the stupidity and abuse, to be kind and considerate. These people, who shall not be named, were the only people that i knew, that put friends over pixels. I trusted these guys entirely, with any of my RS possessions, and likewise. At one time, on my birthday, one of them let me borrow his green Mask for the day. Before this, i had only held one Rare. A santa hat i bought in the October of 2004. which i sold for 1.2 Million. This money was promptly hacked, and although i did not ask for it, they helped me to get back on my feet, and i thank them for this. When one of them got hacked, i decided to donate 1.5 Million of stuff, which id spent the last two days working for. I've talked to a few people like this, and NONE, not one person, said they'd do the same, knowing that they wouldn't get back.

The main point of this, is where has RS gone, what happened to the days of old, the days where no-one was overly concerned with wealth, they were more concerned with the friends they could make in the game, and working together to help each other out. I noticed RS has been trying to get this back into the game, namely the blast furnace, but i've seen guides to DO IT SOLO. This defeats the purpose of the whole exercise. This is showing that people would rather have it all to themselves. Rather than share the work and the profit equally,they'd rather struggle and make it all themselves

What happened to RS, this game used to be good, it used to show the advantages of Friendship, and Hard Work, and working together, but it seems very few people are concerned with friends, how many people do youknow have "borrowed" an item off someone, and then blocked them, and logged out. Hard work is basically now abolished, if you have a Party Hat, you can "buy" a few 99's.

Where has it gone?
Goodbye RS, it has been fun, but the way i see it, the principals that RSC used to hold are gone, and RS isnt worth putting up with idiots anymore

Is it worth it anymore?
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Twilight Ray
post Jul 5 2006, 08:24 AM | Post #2 +Quote Post

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I'd like to ask that mods not close this because it's a quitting post, but rather leave it open as it's discussing many of the current problems of Runescape in a well-thought out rant.

Now that that's over with.

Yeah, RSC was amazing, but over time, Jagex started caring more about money, and stopped being close with their players. Miniclip really did bring a lot of coretards to RS though, and they just made things worse. Since then, Jagex has been trying to keep their largest p2p (can't think of the word, group of people who share similarities) happy, which happens to be mid-level players, and they constantly use frequent updates that are advantageous for them, and seem to forget about those of us higher up in the game. Whenever there's an update that benefits the higher end of Runescape, all the lower end complain about an update they can't use. When the reverse happens, the higher end complains. However, their voice is far louder than ours. The Runescape we once had is gone, and Runescape two will never be able to live up to it. <3 Our old game.
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Dxgr8ter
post Jul 5 2006, 09:50 AM | Post #3 +Quote Post

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Must say I'm sick of these types of posts.

Party hats are too expensive, everyone is mean, you can buy skills blah blah blah.

I agree with some of your points and generating discussion is fine, but as far as the post concerns coming and whinging about it then saying "I quit", I couldn't care less.

Some people will always be inconsiderate, greedy etc and noone is obliged to be generous or charitable to others; welcome to the real world.

Feel free to discuss the issues, I won't close this but this doesn't mean the other mods won't.
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Iamanarab
post Jul 5 2006, 10:08 AM | Post #4 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Dxgr8ter @ Jul 5 2006, 10:50 PM)

Must say I'm sick of these types of posts.

Party hats are too expensive, everyone is mean, you can buy skills blah blah blah.

I agree with some of your points and generating discussion is fine, but as far as the post concerns coming and whinging about it then saying "I quit", I couldn't care less.

Some people will always be inconsiderate, greedy etc and noone is obliged to be generous or charitable to others; welcome to the real world.

Feel free to discuss the issues, I won't close this but this doesn't mean the other mods won't.


I never said Party Hats were too expensive, But the ability to buy skills takes the fun, and carpal tunnel out of the game. RSC had almost none, or no auto "Skill X" It was harder to raise levels, and you had to work for the levels, now, all yuou needed to do was quit with a phat or 2, come back, and voila, you can buy 99's. Wheres the fun in that? I realise people are inconsiderate, unless you are a dillusional idiot, you realise we all live in the real world.

Oh, and the closing thing? You CAN'T close it without permission, in case you forgot, just like the fact we all live in the same world, you dont mod this forum
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Arguous
post Jul 5 2006, 03:35 PM | Post #5 +Quote Post

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Well, Lee, it was good to know you while you were in the game. I didn't know you long, but you always seemed one of the good guys in the game.

I also have experienced much of the bad that you mentioned, but was never around for the "good old days" of RSC.

And I have been thinking of late that the game seems so much like a selfish endeavor. It's a game, it has no bearing on real life.

So as you leave the game, love those close to you. Enjoy the day whether it rains or shines, it's hot or cold. Find beauty in simple things. And all the best to you in your life's endeavors.
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Laugher
post Jul 5 2006, 03:54 PM | Post #6 +Quote Post

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i totally agree. i loved rscs community i met tons of great friends. even though most quit i still keep in contact with two of them i met on rsc. im like you, id give money to a friend in need. ask twilight or makoto, they know. nowadays its all assholes and retards running around trying to better there banks. i really miss the rsc community.
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8o8thekiller
post Jul 5 2006, 04:14 PM | Post #7 +Quote Post

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i remember when i got started in RSC i met a good fellow (he wasn't that high of a level) but he showed me around the place and made me full bronze (which I thought was the nicest thing and the best thing in the world considering i was a noob). But yea I havent seen many of these kinds of ppl around. There are just too many people in RS now its hard to do that. And runescape won't get any better. The good days are gone. It's like the world. The world will get more corrupt every passing day. So will RS
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Makoto
post Jul 5 2006, 05:37 PM | Post #8 +Quote Post

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I'm not even going to touch this thread since it is a valid rant. Seems like a sin to let this kind of discussion go to waste...

I'll admit that I was here for the 'good old days' of RSC, when no one really seemed to care about wealth, property, and the like. Back then it was all about the friendship. Then, when the game started to swell up and then RS2 was launched, things hit an all-time low as far as the community.

However, we can't really hate the community because they've not been in the system nearly as long as we have. (Even though, sometimes...)

They don't know the difference between a hard working player and someone with a Party Hat. They don't know that killing the KBD was an honour, and not something to be soloed (which I could do). They don't understand what true full Dragon is. Lastly, anyone with 80 magic and ANY Mage Arena spell would stricly dominate in combat.

Things have changed, but you can't really complain at it. RuneScape's own popularity has become it's downfall. But all you can do is shrug and remember the good old days.

...Or create a clan dedicated to bringing back those olden times (and I've seen one or two floating around somewhere).
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Nawzlew
post Jul 5 2006, 07:22 PM | Post #9 +Quote Post

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Yes, the game RuneScape has most definitely changed since, in my opinion, the introduction of members

Back in the day, when I started playing the game ( late 2001, early 2002), when there was no members, you couldn't see the levels of players, and you could choose which class you wanted.

Ever since members started, Jagex has been improving it in anyway, as a way to get money. With members, free players also complained about the fact that they never got updates, which led to the fact that many might have upgraded to members. This in turn changes to more money for Jagex.

Now, I think Jagex are just powerhungry, and moneyhungry.

Bring back the old RuneScape!


^^ That's just my opinion btw ..
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Loggy
post Jul 6 2006, 01:09 AM | Post #10 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Dxgr8ter @ Jul 5 2006, 04:50 AM)

Must say I'm sick of these types of posts.

Party hats are too expensive, everyone is mean, you can buy skills blah blah blah.

I agree with some of your points and generating discussion is fine, but as far as the post concerns coming and whinging about it then saying "I quit", I couldn't care less.

Some people will always be inconsiderate, greedy etc and noone is obliged to be generous or charitable to others; welcome to the real world.

Feel free to discuss the issues, I won't close this but this doesn't mean the other mods won't.


I must agree with DX, but in a different way. RSC was better and maybe RS2 has gotten worse in some ways, but in the end, it's just a game. If you're mad, go hang out with your real friends. :\
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Baakalor
post Jul 6 2006, 02:14 AM | Post #11 +Quote Post

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Sure the game has changed. It has evolved as anything in today's world must. The world today is a society that demands instant gratification and games are no different. I know people who won't play a game they can't find cheat codes, guides, or "quickie" work arounds for.

JAGeX is a business and as such, must provide what the majority of players want. That is, a fast-paced game where they can advance with a minimum of effort.

I have also played this game since the times where the only way to see someone's level was to meet in the wild, before members, and before party hats. I enjoyed it then, I enjoy it now.

I currently have the ability to buy some experience in a skill or two but I'm not super rich by any means. I have about 3M in the bank (almost all of it came from high-alching stuff I made or stuff from treasure trails) and most of that is going to be spent on construction since there is no other way to raise it. That doesn't mean I'm buying logs, just turning the logs I cut into planks. That's why construction irritates me so much. It's the first skill that I must spend money on to raise.

I have always been a loner in this game. I don't buy, sell, borrow, or loan stuff out. On the rare occasion, I have, but as the rule, I don't. Hell, when I was convinced I needed a whip, I had a friend sell my santa hat and buy the whip for me. I hate merchanting.

You can rant all you want about other people buying skills or the lack of friendship or whatever but the bottom line is, what you get out of the game is what you put into it. For the most part, I still play the game as if it was RSC.

My personal satisfaction comes from knowing that I worked for my skill levels and I enjoy the game. I wonder what tomorrow will bring?
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runekilla794
post Jul 6 2006, 04:12 AM | Post #12 +Quote Post

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Well, I personally agree with 100% of what you are saying. I used to play this game called Diablo 2, with my friends. We would only play for fun, but now things are getting out of hand , with scamming and such. And me and my best friend would go to the library to use their computers to play RSC, which was the bomb. We would have so much fun thinkin of things we would do. Now its all about self-gain and personal wealth, which is really starting to get disgusting. But either way, there are always friends you have online which are trustworthy 100%, and those are the ones you should stay friends with.
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Makoto
post Jul 6 2006, 05:02 AM | Post #13 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(runekilla794 @ Jul 5 2006, 10:12 PM)

...there are always friends you have online which are trustworthy 100%...


Sorry to shoot a hole in this, but you can never trust anyone online at any time. For any reason. Unless you know them in real life, they'll turn on you sooner or later in one way or another. Not to say that no one is trustworthy, but you don't need to cast random trust every which-way.
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Twilight Ray
post Jul 6 2006, 05:22 AM | Post #14 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Makoto @ Jul 6 2006, 12:02 AM)

Sorry to shoot a hole in this, but you can never trust anyone online at any time. For any reason. Unless you know them in real life, they'll turn on you sooner or later in one way or another. Not to say that no one is trustworthy, but you don't need to cast random trust every which-way.

ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE FEMALE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
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Mysticallity
post Jul 6 2006, 06:12 AM | Post #15 +Quote Post

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I dunno. Back then, there were still scamming even when certs and second screens were introduced. People were obsessed about money, but not to the extent today. But yes, you can actually see kindness, respect and trust involved. Higher levels would give you jobs and help you out, not call you a noob.

Then again, if RS has changed this much, then we just plunge forward and take the bullet, or retreat.
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