 Sigh.... Seems Like I Can't Reach My Goal...., I wasn't macroing!!! -_- |
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 Jun 9 2006, 05:03 PM | Post #16 |
 
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QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jun 9 2006, 10:35 AM)
SS allows ads. It would even block your screen if you access the menu.
It's not likely due to ads, since it does say marcoing.
Yep, this is the 'improved' detection system they're boasting about.
It doesn't say macroing, it says AFKing, or using a third party program that helps you play RS. Using SS does actually fall under this rule (try saying swiftswitch in RS if you think it is a legal program...)
Also, remember they never show the evidence for rule 7, because it can help autoers beat the detection system. They are shoing evidence for offensive language, staff impersonation, etc.
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Jun 9 2006, 05:22 PM | Post #17 |
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Jun 9 2006, 05:30 PM | Post #18 |
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Jagex has been into asthetics lately (the last few months have brought us the new look front page, fourms, and half the f2p world). maybing having that "View Evidence" there, at least in there eyes, makes a difference, as well, when looking at violations of various rules.
I can say this, don't appologize if you want it taken away, since that doesn't change that you broke a rule, and they won't remove it. Also, don't say someone else had your account, since you are responsible for the security of your account, and action is taken against the account, not the player. Somewhere in the rules, it says that someone else being on your account isn't a defense to the rules.
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Jun 9 2006, 05:38 PM | Post #19 |
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QUOTE(Rooftrellen @ Jun 9 2006, 05:03 PM)
It doesn't say macroing, it says AFKing, or using a third party program that helps you play RS. Using SS does actually fall under this rule (try saying swiftswitch in RS if you think it is a legal program...)
Also, remember they never show the evidence for rule 7, because it can help autoers beat the detection system. They are shoing evidence for offensive language, staff impersonation, etc.
Macroing is not AFK and AFK is not macroing. SS does not directly interfere with the game, merely to provide an interface with additional help outside the game. It does not give anyone an advantage within the game. It also, does not communicates in a different way from a browser, tamper with the communications, generate inputs, or modifies the game. SS has also be proven to be 'legal' from various Jagex staff. *cough* is such a prominent community that Jagex would've been aware of SS a long time ago. If they can stop *cough* from publishing a guide by an informal request, then they can prevent any programs they see on sight as they wish.
To effectively do AFK training, you would need a bot or something else to make you move once in a while, because if you simply leave the keyboard alone, you would log out after a while. I have been playing RS and got logged out quite a lot of times by looking at something else for too long and I'm never in trouble. It's stupid if people got banned from such a slight matter.
On second thought, Jagex wouldn't take a ban like this lightly. I, for one, am going to stay neutral. Daihaminkay MIGHT have used bots, and we have no way of knowing that. So, I'm not rooting for anyone.
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Jun 9 2006, 05:46 PM | Post #20 |
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Anyway, AFKing is not macroing, but they both fall under rule 7, as well as any program that would give you the advantage over others, autoer or not. SS does this by, from what my friends say, allowing you to the world 2 login (or other full world log in), without having to refrsh a hundred times to get into the loging screen in the first place. Auto typers do this by allowing you to type faster and get more messages out than normal, and keeps your fingers from getting tired and slower. Auto programs do this by allowing the user to leave the computer but keep training.
AFKing falls under that rule as well (look it up in the KB), but its not looking at another site, since you are still there. AFKing would be leaving to do something else, comming back every minute or so to move the mouse and stay logged in, or, as someone I know did, have a big stick to nudge the mouse and stay logged in without having to go to the computer, lol. They probably don't get people for AFKing much, unless they come right out and say it.
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Jun 9 2006, 06:22 PM | Post #21 |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:59 PM | Post #22 |
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QUOTE(Rooftrellen @ Jun 9 2006, 05:46 PM)
I asked about "programs that allow people to change worlds by bypassing the world select screen" twice, and once I got a auto respose, look at the rules. The other time I got a reply that such programs are illegal.
Anyway, AFKing is not macroing, but they both fall under rule 7, as well as any program that would give you the advantage over others, autoer or not. SS does this by, from what my friends say, allowing you to the world 2 login (or other full world log in), without having to refrsh a hundred times to get into the loging screen in the first place. Auto typers do this by allowing you to type faster and get more messages out than normal, and keeps your fingers from getting tired and slower. Auto programs do this by allowing the user to leave the computer but keep training.
AFKing falls under that rule as well (look it up in the KB), but its not looking at another site, since you are still there. AFKing would be leaving to do something else, comming back every minute or so to move the mouse and stay logged in, or, as someone I know did, have a big stick to nudge the mouse and stay logged in without having to go to the computer, lol. They probably don't get people for AFKing much, unless they come right out and say it.
There were mentionings of some replys of saying nos and yes. But SS Switcher was 'offically' legal, apparently said so by Andrew. If it wasn't, then I'd imagine SS being taking down a long time ago. Mods have different opinions, and that makes it confusing. We don't have the exact mechanics on how it is used to connect to the worlds, so it makes it even more iffy.
Point is, I expect Jagex to be fully aware of SS. Maybe it was specific programs that you are allowed? Try asking whether SwiftSwitch is allowed, not just the general programs. Even then, there's no problem of people getting banned for the time being.
I believe there was a post sometime ago about being able to save the world pages itself. If it works, then world switchers are obsolete. There are already many people using world switchers and Jagex seems fine about them. One has the choice to do it the normal or the other way.
If you're clicking and leaving and clicking every so often, then that's virtually suicide. With the amount of randoms running around, it's just better to logout and finish whatever you're doing before comming back. Besides, it is impossible to detect AFKing in this way, since you're not clicking things like a bot. Things like putting stuff on the arrow keys will be detected easily, as no one would be pressing a button for 24 hours.
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Jun 9 2006, 08:30 PM | Post #23 |
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Get back on the topic or make your own thread.
Let's just wait and see whether is ban appeal is granted or not.
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