Hidden Update: Rule 15 And Controversy, What is YOUR opinion on this new rule? |
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| Twilight Ray |
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QUOTE(pheonix1091 @ Feb 28 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]47285[/snapback] Should have announced the new rule, or people would unknowningly break it, but it's impossible to detect anyway. How could they tell if i scrolled or zoomed in on the ad?
IT'S NOT A NEW RULE FFS.
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| Baakalor |
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Chill people. As has been said, there is no way they can track it if you block the ads so ignore it if you wish.
This is no big deal. Frankly, I think JAGeX made a mistake putting that rule in. It just shows people how concerned they are about making more and more money and it also makes it glaringly obvious that while they want to think they can track all rulebreakers, they can't.
They have fostered this perception that they are all-knowing and all-seeing but when they put in a rule they have absolutely no ability to enforce, they just showed us all they are not as powerful as they would have us believe.
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| moe |
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Ahahaha, ahahahaha....get p2p, boom...just solved it....god im good.
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| FireballX301 |
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About the f2p versus p2p thing, Runescape was designed and published as a completely free game, but as it became popular and more demands were made of Andrew and Paul, they decided to make a p2p version and hire staffers to fulfill that demand.
F2P is not a trial version of P2P, it is a game unto itself, and is maintained because of that fact. It would make economical sense to shut it down or make it a time limited trial, but there's probably some idealism left in the Jagex offices.
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| firenimmo |
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It isn't anything to worry about, only methods of playing the Free-to-play game which completely avoid the ads (ie - load the game from a page where there are no ads, as opposed to hiding or blocking the ads on the Jagex page) are detectable, so most people using SwiftSwitch or whatever other client are fine. In view of that, Jagex telling you what to block or not block is quite tame, but you can see their point-of-view, since they're a business which has to cover costs.
QUOTE(FireballX301 @ Mar 1 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]47369[/snapback] It would make economical sense to shut it down or make it a time limited trial, but there's probably some idealism left in the Jagex offices.
It could be down to idealism, sure. But the economical sense comment isn't necessarily valid. F2P makes Runescape a very accessible game (obviously the Java browser-based factor helps too) especially for newer MMORPG players, which is a hefty contribution towards Runescape's popularity. Being able to try something with no restrictions such as time may well help persuade more people to purchase a Members subscription, either because they appreciate the company providing so much for free, or because they have enough time to make an informed decision.
The only issue in this topic is that the guy who feels the need to mention Linux every two minutes can't manage to install a JVM on it. Sure, it might not be important, but it's still funny.
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| Geo1988 |
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I understand the circumstances of the rule. If adverts are blocked on f2p, then RuneScape makes little cash to support f2p. But I know many people are not willing to unblock the adverts because they find it too annoying. Hey? this could be the end of f2p for all we know.
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| Canadian24lkay |
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what a rediculous thing to post... thats like saying i cant tape a piece of contruction paper to my monitor to block my view of the ads!!
LOL ok I understand why they need the ads there but they cant legitimatly punish someone for doing something that has nothing whatsoever to do with gameplay... pssht
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| MaxTheDragon |
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Jagex does not consider it a rule, but a guideline. If you block ads, you should be fine. It doesn't really matter, since they can't detect it.
However, the real reason why this rule was added, was because of people advertising ways to block ads. Jagex wants to deal with these players, using the new rule 15. If they notice that you tell others how to block ads, in the game, or on the forums, they can now take action against you.
Rule 15: You're not allowed to advertise ways to block adverts in the free version of the game.
Just read it like that and you should be fine. 
This post has been edited by MaxTheDragon: Mar 1 2006, 07:53 PM
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| Kid Punk |
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I'm a bit undecided, because on the one hand, I agree with Makoto; it's my computer, not theirs, and I should be able to block what I want. On the other hand, ad's provide the revenue they're losing from keeping half the worlds f2p; if they got rid of ads, they would be looking at a hefty loss of profit. All in all, I think the rule is sensible, in the sense that they just need the money.
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| nopenoname |
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I understand the reson for them making this as a rule, this rule is to intimidate the computer illiterate people of rs. but you have to wonder how much they are making in the first place... what lets say there are 100,000 p2p members (not too exagerated I hope) at 5 bucks a months thats a ridiculous half a million dollors every month, plus what ever they get for the ads, lets assume the ad companies pay based on how many people see the their ads every day, even if they get paid 1 cent for every view, that still adds up really fast. Agreed that they have staff and servers to maintain, thats still a crapload of moolah. i'm just confused why they are worried about those f2p players who are computer literate and who care about blocking the ads... Me im p2p so I don't care.
This post has been edited by nopenoname: Mar 2 2006, 03:59 PM
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| Yilin Go |
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new rules are uncool.
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| meteora184 |
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QUOTE(Arguous @ Feb 28 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]47242[/snapback] I just use a normal browser to play. When I go on f2p servers, I just window it so I scroll the window down so I don't see the ads. They are still there, not blocked. I just don't see them.  ya except for every 15 minutes it loads up a new add and lags alot.
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| Loge_05 |
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Saw this also, they snuck it in with the new quest Anyway, I think they're fair to do that. F2p has drawbacks. Should've been some notification though. Apparantly people have been banned already.
This post has been edited by Loge_05: Mar 3 2006, 09:20 PM
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| Slim50 |
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I think that's mainly because of what Swiftswitch originally had going for it...and then Strider had to change SS to accomodate the adverts.
Nothing big.
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