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> The 'unfairness' Of Wilderness
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Which, out of these options, best describes your options about the Wilderness?
I h8 telly/pray nubs and log/x-ers! [ 3 ] ** [5.88%]
Tele/Praying is fine, as long as you don't PK. [ 9 ] ** [17.65%]
The wilderness is a place of freedom. End of story. [ 17 ] ** [33.33%]
Dude. I like poptarts. [ 22 ] ** [43.14%]
Total Votes: 51
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meteora184
post Jan 9 2006, 09:06 PM | Post #46 +Quote Post

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about the tele block thing, people dont normaly tele right away so just wait for a bit when u think hell be teleing soon to put the block on him.
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Deathbyape
post Jan 9 2006, 11:29 PM | Post #47 +Quote Post

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CONTINUED...
(Thanks Baak)



QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]37450[/snapback]

Smite exists, but your opponent is using Protect from X. Meaning you have to do 344 damage to drain the 43 Prayer that exists. Of course, it will decrease in time, but that could be enough to use up your food and your prayer.

But it is possible. Besides, a lot of people don't always have full prayer. They might be on their way to re-charge when you get them.

QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]37450[/snapback]

It could also be used when your opponent retreats. If he/she is stupid enough not to bring runes to teleport (in your opinion), then it is a simple matter to active a prayer and run towards the south. Of course, it isn't technically teleport to save your stuff, so people had to invent a new insult. It is now generally more respectable to not use prayer. If you want to use prayer, no one's stopping you, but the consequence is getting called a prayer-noob. It's similar to... let's say bribing someone to help you clear a debt larger than the bribery. Basically, you're gaining an 'unfair' (in their eyes) advantage.[No one calls the other combat type a noob, because Jagex has made it balanced so one combat type has an advantage and a weakness to one of them (although some claims it to be unbalanced). If you meet an advantaged opponent, you're screwed. But, if you use prayer, the triangle will not be in place and you could escape sucessfully or even kill your opponent. There is no more balance when prayer comes into place. Therefore, people will consider prayer to be an 'unfair' (in their eyes) advantage and therefore, labling those who use it as a noob.

I can see how one could think it is unfair, however Prayer is apart of the game, and if not wanting to die and lose full Rune means throwing on prayer, I don't see why not. Like I said in my other post. If I'm going to die and the only thing that could save me is my prayer, but I don't want to be a "Prayer noob", I may aswell just trade them my full rune and save time.

QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]37450[/snapback]

Dragon Scimitar has that special ability. However, it only lasts 5 seconds, which the opponent can easily recover from. Unless your opponent is near death, then 5 seconds of vulnerability is insignificant. There is also the matter of actually damaging your opponent, which relies on luck.

Thats why you only use it when their near death. I don't know why anyone else would use it any other time. As for damaging your opponent, it isn't so much luck as it is what kind of stats you have. The chances of hitting someone with an attack level of 1 and the chances of someone with an attack level of 99 or even 100+ if potted are not the same, which they would be if it really was luck. The higher your attack level is, the more often your going to hit. But this is not so much talking about prayer anymore.

QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]37450[/snapback]

You would need to spend ~1M to Ectofuntus your way to 52. This is affordable to a reasonable portion of P2P, but not many people would buy bones purely for PKing, mostly for combat levels.

Again, choices. I didn't spend a dime on getting my prayer to 52 for the record, so it is possible. But again, back to choices, if they can't/don't want to spend however much money it is to get smite, its their problem, and not that poor little man in level 15 wilderness teleporting.

QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]37450[/snapback]

You can do something about it. The counter-effect is either too low or too expensive for PKers to afford.

Not the teleporter in 15 wild's fault. (btw, His name will be Bob from now if he ever needs to be mentioned again)

But honestly, It's not the actual "insult" of being called a prayer noob or tele noob that gets me, its the general reason of why they do. There are things they do that I may not like, but I don't get all upset and start accusing them of cheating.

Oh, and if I sounded pissed at all, I'm really not, thats just how I argue my point tongue.gif


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discoi
post Jan 10 2006, 04:39 AM | Post #48 +Quote Post

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some times the wildy is awsome when your pking, but when your trying to get planks for dragon slayor.................then your dead meat, i lost a lot of rune stuff , dam planks~~~~~!!!!!!!!~~~~~, h4ers sad.gif dry.gif mad.gif

QUOTE(Deathbyape @ Jan 8 2006, 03:55 PM) [snapback]38954[/snapback]

Forgot about this topic ohmy.gif
To stop someone from running south, they can use a spell to stop them from moving. If you really don't want your opponent to teleport, you should be out very deep. Using a spell to stop them should keep them from getting to level 20.
There are people out there to pk, it just takes longer. You have to make a choice: Either wait a little longer for someone to come, or go in shallow where there are lots of people and risk having them tele. It the pkers choice. If you need to, get a team. If you can't, that's your problem, not the person who is teleing in level 15 wilderness.
Again, this is their choice. It is in their power to get tele-block. If they can't afford it, again that's their problem, not the person who is teleing in level 15 wilderness. If they really wanted to, they could work for it and get teleblock to stop them. How they spend their money is also up to them.
I'm not positive, but I do think that Teleblock lasts for five minuets. I can look into it more if needs be.
I have yet to see someone tele with an ectophial. I really don't think that many people know about it.
Another choice, they can get members if they want to. If their parents or whatever won't let them, that's their problem, and once again, not the person in level 15 wilderness teleporting.
If they get scammed, that is 100% their problem. I have never been scammed from a trade screen in my LIFE. You know why? Because I always double, sometimes triple check each screen to make sure that it is correct. There is absolutely no way that I will feel pity for anyone who gets scammed by simply not paying enough attention.
If you let everything that's allowed in the wilderness be allowed in the duel arena, I don't see how anything can be based on luck.
There are bugs all over Runescape, not just in the duel arena. A lot of people have gotten screwed over by them, including myself, but all you can do is report it to Jagex and wait for it to be fixed. (If your wondering what bug I had, I had one where my full grown CAT, yes CAT not kitten was asking for food. I tried to feed it but it wouldn't let me and it told me since it was a cat that I didn't need to be fed anymore. It ran away eventually. My CAT ran away. It was sad lol. There was appearently some bug with some Cats that were transfered from RS1.) Anyways, what if being able to get around teleblock with the ectophial is a bug?
That may be true, but it is beside the point. The point was that prayer was put in the game, and people have every right to use it how they want.

Dunno why I can get any quotes to work :\

hehe!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

QUOTE(gnomer15 @ Jan 2 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]37491[/snapback]

Actually...I'm eating a cherry Poptart right NOW! tongue.gif

But back on topic

The thing I have a problem with, People attacking agility-er's
and people that get a good fight with you, using almost all your damn food, then they tele, after a waste of 5 minutes, and all that god damned food.

lucky!
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