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Mysticallity
post Sep 19 2005, 06:26 PM | Post #16 +Quote Post

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I don't think this will work UNLESS you have loads of patience to keep typing and you actually get to BUY yew logs. Otherwise, some random person will simply come and buy them for a lot higher.
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Dipschnit
post Sep 19 2005, 09:51 PM | Post #17 +Quote Post

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Something is only worth as much as somebody will pay...
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Deathbyape
post Sep 19 2005, 11:10 PM | Post #18 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Dipschnit @ Sep 19 2005, 04:51 PM)
Something is only worth as much as somebody will pay...


I think that sentence sums up the entire conversation.
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Baakalor
post Sep 20 2005, 06:02 PM | Post #19 +Quote Post

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I guess those that are trying to manipulate the market subscribe to Robert Byrne's theory that "In order to preserve your self-respect, it is sometimes necessary to
lie and cheat."

Manipulating the RS market is pointless. If you do manage to get a bunch of people buying and selling yew logs for 200 each, someone is going to come along and buy as much as they can for 250 and someone else will outbid them, etc., etc., etc.
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Target
post Sep 20 2005, 07:11 PM | Post #20 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Baakalor @ Sep 20 2005, 06:02 PM)
I guess those that are trying to manipulate the market subscribe to Robert Byrne's theory that "In order to preserve your self-respect, it is sometimes necessary to
lie and cheat."

Manipulating the RS market is pointless.  If you do manage to get a bunch of people buying and selling yew logs for 200 each, someone is going to come along and buy as much as they can for 250 and someone else will outbid them, etc., etc., etc.

Its not lieing or cheating. Just don't buy for more then 200 or whatever amount you wish to pay. Has nothing to do with "lieing or cheating".
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Baakalor
post Sep 20 2005, 11:44 PM | Post #21 +Quote Post

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If you pretend to buy and sell, that is lying. You are trying to get people to believe something that is not true.

I stand by my statements. If you attempt to manipulate the market through deception, you have no self-respect.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, the two viewpoints are still just opinions and opinions are like armpits, everyones got one and some stink more than others.
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TheNative
post Sep 21 2005, 01:02 AM | Post #22 +Quote Post

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People get banned for this pm it to jagex, its price fixing, and it IS scaming, i see mods ban and close threds on offical rs forums for people trying to do this, its price fixing and against the rules, imn not trying to tell anyone what to do, im just telling you jagex views this as a bad thing
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Zaw1314
post Sep 21 2005, 01:15 AM | Post #23 +Quote Post

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first things first, baaklor ur a noob. this isnt lying,cheating, or scamming. if ppl dont have common sense then its there fault for selling their yews for like 200 each. anyone that says it is scamming, lying, cheating, ur a noob.
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Luckk13
post Sep 21 2005, 06:09 AM | Post #24 +Quote Post

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then would it be my fault if u chose to buy my lead spear for 2m thinking it was a guthan spear? going by your definitions, thats perfectly legal. and if you give me an item to hold, i can just keep it, that too by your definitions is legal.
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Baakalor
post Sep 21 2005, 06:03 PM | Post #25 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Zaw1314 @ Sep 20 2005, 06:15 PM)
this isnt lying,cheating, or scamming.

Too bad you're too into name calling instead of reading. My last post very clearly explains the lying part so yeah, it is lying.

Is it cheating? Well, let's see now....
From Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
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Main Entry: 1cheat
Pronunciation: 'chEt
Function: verb
transitive senses
1 : to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud
2 : to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice
3 : to elude or thwart by or as if by outwitting <cheat death>
intransitive senses
1 a : to practice fraud or trickery
b : to violate rules dishonestly (as at cards or on an examination)

Now I know it's too much to ask you to actually read that so I'll just tell you that the pertinent parts are the words, deceit, fraud, and trick.

Now as long as you're not into reading, here's another one for you to ignore that is taken directly from Runescape.
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What is a scam?

A scam is the act of acquiring item(s) from another player through misinformation, confusion and pressure, or by taking advantage of basic trust.

Yes it is scamming according to the definition provided by Runescape.

So what part don't you understand? The misinformation? Maybe it's that part about taking advantage of basic trust.

In any case, the market altering idea as presented by Yoshi constitutes all three parts of lying, cheating, and scamming.

Bottom line? If you wish to alter market prices, find another way to do it that does not violate JAGeX (and therefore RuneWeb) rules.

Oh, and stop calling people "noobs." All it does is reflect on your own mentality. One last thing before I go, learn how to spell my name. That would be Baakalor, not Baaklor. dry.gif

This post has been edited by Baakalor: Sep 21 2005, 06:05 PM
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Tangerz
post Sep 21 2005, 09:36 PM | Post #26 +Quote Post

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All hail Baakalor.

and Supa's mother.

This post has been edited by Tangerz: Sep 21 2005, 09:37 PM
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gnomer15
post Sep 22 2005, 01:53 AM | Post #27 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Luckk13 @ Sep 21 2005, 02:09 AM)
then would it be my fault if u chose to buy my lead spear for 2m thinking it was a guthan spear?  going by your definitions, thats perfectly legal.  and if you give me an item to hold, i can just keep it, that too by your definitions is legal.


This is a totally different situation, you are talking about a huge gap in price. If someone is desperate to sell these yew logs that they have had in their bank for months, for 100 less for ea..they wont care. I can't see this as being "SCAMMING" only because its not really that drastic.
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T-Ball
post Sep 22 2005, 02:27 AM | Post #28 +Quote Post

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Its a game, and in games there are always cheaters. C'est la vie smile.gif
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Makoto
post Sep 22 2005, 03:38 AM | Post #29 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Baakalor @ Sep 21 2005, 12:03 PM)
Bottom line?  If you wish to alter market prices, find another way to do it that does not violate JAGeX (and therefore RuneWeb) rules.


^ — 'nuff said.
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