Cafebcs

Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM | Post #1

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Posted on: Apr 8, 2007
Skill name: Summoning Skill



Summary/Synopsis:
- Cast 'helpers' as many as the skill makes you able of.
- Bind a nature rune and death rune for make summoning runes.
- The ancient book will get updated with 'helpers' that attack.
- The lunar book will get updated with 'helpers' that defends.
- The modern magic will get updated with some combat 'helpers'.
- The summoning ring will help us for give orders efficiently.
- We will be able of create objects with magic (herbole items)
- Coffins around runescape will help us to increase control.
- The animation of objects will help for quest (like pinoccio)
- The 'helpers' will not leave until you die or teleport out.
- The 'helpers' will protect you attacking or defending.
- The 'helpers' will be NPC character (fighter, ranger, mage)
- The 'helpers' will no attack slayer monsters above your level.
- You will be make them able of follow you if you want go pking.
- They will be usefull on places where you need be a big team.

Examples of level achievements:
- Ancient Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Ashes, for summon imp, lesser, greater and black demon.
... Bones, for summon hill, moss, ice and fire giant.
- Lunar Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Sawdust, for summon barricades, walls and magic walls.
... Grapes, for summon small, medium and big vines on floor.
- Modern Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Vampire dust, for summon fighter, ranger and mage vampires.
... Eagle's Eye, for use the 'helper' view and control movement.

How it ties in with existing skills:
- Magic, because the 'helpers' will obey as high as the magic is.

Why it would be a great addition to RuneScape:
- Because its a long awaited update (since classic is waited)
- Because we want more spells on ancient and lunar spellbooks.
- Because necromance update was released but not summoning yet.
- Because will be nice have people following you like on rpg's

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What do you think Jagex could apply (or not) on Summoning Skill?
- They will release the skill on January, 2008 with a quest.
- I'm 75% sure Summoning will be Members Only (not f2p)

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jan 8 2008, 11:00 PM

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spikey188

Jan 3 2008, 04:01 PM | Post #2

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jan 3 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]104887[/snapback]

- You will be make them able of follow you if you want go pking.

well thats ironic....

QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jan 3 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]104887[/snapback]

- They will release the skill on January, 2008 with a quest.
- I'm 75% sure Summoning will be Members Only (not f2p)

well a quest? , so finaly f2p gets a new one...

This post has been edited by spikey188: Jan 3 2008, 04:05 PM

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Dilbert26

Jan 3 2008, 05:47 PM | Post #3

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I'm going to be honest here Cafebcs, there is not much here that you "predicted" about the summoning skill. A lot of it is either common sense (such being able to cast a number of creatures that your level allows....). I'll go through a few and voice my opinion.

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Summary/Synopsis:
- Cast 'helpers' as many as the skill makes you able of.
- The 'helpers' will not leave until you die or teleport out.
- The 'helpers' will protect you attacking or defending.
- The 'helpers' will be NPC character (fighter, ranger, mage)
- The 'helpers' will no attack slayer monsters above your level.
- They will be usefull on places where you need be a big team.

The above and all pretty obvious guesses, nothing insightful or anything.

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- Bind a nature rune and death rune for make summoning runes.
- The ancient book will get updated with 'helpers' that attack.
- The lunar book will get updated with 'helpers' that defends.
- The modern magic will get updated with some combat 'helpers'.
- The summoning ring will help us for give orders efficiently.
- We will be able of create objects with magic (herbole items)
- Coffins around runescape will help us to increase control.
- The animation of objects will help for quest (like pinoccio)
- You will be make them able of follow you if you want go pking.

All those above and pretty farout guesses. Where did combining death and nature come from? Why not come up with a new rune or the forever loved "life" rune. Why do you assume that each book will offer those kind of help? (lunar offers helpers to defend, ancient to attack). What about the noncombat side of slayer? What book will offer stuff for skillers? You have a few ideas going though...im sure there will be more than 1 quest where we must summon someone from the dead or use our summoning to beat it. Coffins could possibly do something for us and it is quite likely to get a new piece of jewelery to aid in summoning.

I'm just curious, how do you come up with this stuff? Is it all educated guesses or do you read some from forums/friends?

Summoning is said to tie in with every skill, not just combat or magic. Jagex has already confirmed that. Also, of course it will be atleast 75% p2p. I have heard rumors that it has been confirmed that summoning WILL be f2p, not from that screenshot either. But f2p is so limited, of course only a small fraction of the skill will be available to f2p.

Once Summononing is released, I really don't want to see you bragging at your predictions again, unless of course we do have to combine a death and nature to make a new rune, unlikely though. I'll give you another thing though...I realize how much knowledge you have of runescape history and quests and such so you do have an advantage over me in that way. But let's wait and see how accurate these predictions are before I make a fool of myself anymore.

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Cafebcs

Jan 8 2008, 09:59 PM | Post #4

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I used to read and write on RSOF everyday, also sometimes didn't play rs just for read forums.

I have read all books on runescape, also hidden ones on some quest areas (I have them on house)



THE NEW SKILL SUMMONING <----- Summoning Dungeon.

Look at 01:36, I think I found the update since February 22, 2007 ^_^



Just for give clues of the place, its not LEGENDS related quest.

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jan 9 2008, 08:16 PM

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Tangerz

Jan 9 2008, 12:58 AM | Post #5

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jan 8 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]105114[/snapback]

I used to read and write on RSOF everyday, also sometimes didn't play rs just for read forums.

I have read all books on runescape, also hidden ones on some quest areas (I have them on house)



THE NEW SKILL SUMMONING <----- Summoning Dungeon.

Look at 01:36, I think I found the update since February 22, 2007 ^_^

Isn't that Legends' Dungeon?

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Makoto

Jan 9 2008, 01:26 AM | Post #6

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Alright, let’s go ahead and (de)solidify what you think you know about this skill.

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Summary/Synopsis:
- Cast 'helpers' as many as the skill makes you able of.
- Bind a nature rune and death rune for make summoning runes.
- The ancient book will get updated with 'helpers' that attack.
- The lunar book will get updated with 'helpers' that defends.
- The modern magic will get updated with some combat 'helpers'.
- The summoning ring will help us for give orders efficiently.
- We will be able of create objects with magic (herbole items)
- Coffins around runescape will help us to increase control.
- The animation of objects will help for quest (like pinoccio)
- The 'helpers' will not leave until you die or teleport out.
- The 'helpers' will protect you attacking or defending.
- The 'helpers' will be NPC character (fighter, ranger, mage)
- The 'helpers' will no attack slayer monsters above your level.
- You will be make them able of follow you if you want go pking.
- They will be usefull on places where you need be a big team.

Alright, so nothing here that’s revolutionary. In fact, most of these have already been disproved. For instance, you claim that all spellbooks will get updated with the skill, primarily. That is incorrect – if it were a Magic-addon then it wouldn’t be its own skill. Besides, Jagex has already said that they decided to de-link this skill from Magic…didn’t you read the Development Diary on that?

We don’t know if we’ll be able to create items, and the coffin thing is just way out there (they’re more decorum than useful). Everything else below the coffin part is speculation, which isn’t necessarily true.

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Examples of level achievements:
- Ancient Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Ashes, for summon imp, lesser, greater and black demon.
... Bones, for summon hill, moss, ice and fire giant.
- Lunar Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Sawdust, for summon barricades, walls and magic walls.
... Grapes, for summon small, medium and big vines on floor.
- Modern Spell Book (Low, Medium, High)
... Vampire dust, for summon fighter, ranger and mage vampires.
... Eagle's Eye, for use the 'helper' view and control movement.

No, we don’t know if we can summon inanimate objects yet. And I highly doubt that we’d be using Magic in the skill, at all. I’ll refer you to my above post.

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I used to read and write on RSOF everyday, also sometimes didn't play rs just for read forums.

I have read all books on runescape, also hidden ones on some quest areas (I have them on house)



THE NEW SKILL SUMMONING <----- Summoning Dungeon.

Look at 01:36, I think I found the update since February 22, 2007 ^_^

Didn’t you do Legends? Ragidad Ponfit is one of the NPCs involved in that quest.

By the way, you didn’t suggest this, so I’d appreciate it personally if you didn’t say you did, okay?

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Tangerz

Jan 9 2008, 01:58 AM | Post #7

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QUOTE(Makoto @ Jan 8 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]105124[/snapback]

Alright, let’s go ahead and (de)solidify what you think you know about this skill.
Alright, so nothing here that’s revolutionary. In fact, most of these have already been disproved. For instance, you claim that all spellbooks will get updated with the skill, primarily. That is incorrect – if it were a Magic-addon then it wouldn’t be its own skill. Besides, Jagex has already said that they decided to de-link this skill from Magic…didn’t you read the Development Diary on that?

We don’t know if we’ll be able to create items, and the coffin thing is just way out there (they’re more decorum than useful). Everything else below the coffin part is speculation, which isn’t necessarily true.
No, we don’t know if we can summon inanimate objects yet. And I highly doubt that we’d be using Magic in the skill, at all. I’ll refer you to my above post.
Didn’t you do Legends? Ragidad Ponfit is one of the NPCs involved in that quest.

By the way, you didn’t suggest this, so I’d appreciate it personally if you didn’t say you did, okay?

In Cafebcs terms,
Esto es una mala idea.
No debería utilizar nunca pensar en nuevas ideas.
Salir de los foros mientras estás en ello.

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Cafebcs

Jan 9 2008, 07:58 PM | Post #8

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I will appreciate don't talk me on forums on spanish. I only talk english on english boards. Also anti-ppl sigs are bad for a good ambient on forums.

Radinag Ponfit is mentioned on "In Search of the Myreque" but NEVER you meet him personally.

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jan 9 2008, 09:09 PM

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Tangerz

Jan 10 2008, 12:27 AM | Post #9

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jan 9 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]105134[/snapback]

I will appreciate don't talk me on forums on spanish. I only talk english on english boards. Also anti-ppl sigs are bad for a good ambient on forums.

Radinag Ponfit is mentioned on "In Search of the Myreque" but NEVER you meet him personally.

Your English is so bad that we can barely understand you... and it seems like our English is so good that you can't understand us.

This sig is a reminder of a personal vendetta that I have against you. It's something that only people on the inside would know. What about the ambience of the forums? In my opinion, I think you're ruining it with your presumptuous ideas and theories.

You do meet Radigad Ponfit. In fact, he's one of the Myreque members you find in the dungeon. Looks like your "extensive" RS knowledge fails you once again.

YHF. HAND.

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Twilight Ray

Jan 10 2008, 12:51 AM | Post #10

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jan 9 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]105134[/snapback]

I will appreciate don't talk me on forums on spanish. I only talk english on english boards. Also anti-ppl sigs are bad for a good ambient on forums.

Radinag Ponfit is mentioned on "In Search of the Myreque" but NEVER you meet him personally.

People who speak broken English are bad for a good ambience on forums.

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Dark Angel

Jan 10 2008, 01:04 AM | Post #11

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Guys I heard that it was also going to be free worlder but the skill is actually members a J mod confirmed it.

"It's my favourite members' skill that I've helped to release," says Mod Mark

^^ diaries of develpoment #4 summoning.

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Donkey Kong

Jan 10 2008, 01:27 AM | Post #12

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QUOTE(Dark Angel @ Jan 9 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]105160[/snapback]

"It's my favourite members' skill that I've helped to release," says Mod Mark

Touche.

-DK

This post has been edited by Donkey Kong: Jan 10 2008, 01:27 AM

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CP Lewis

Jan 10 2008, 06:28 PM | Post #13

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Not sure what to say on this, Where did you get all of the information. Just guesses? And where did you get the idea for the skill icon? Just a guess as well? Did you get the information from a mod? Please explain. ty

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Cafebcs

Jan 10 2008, 06:51 PM | Post #14

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I always try to be based on hints that jagex gives, the chaos elemental board was one of them, then I google the words and start to read.

The icon was found on tip.it and on edgeville.net by some rs players some days ago. Just google the words that you think are hints and you will find some answers (also read some other games related to topic helps to think how jagex could implement the update)

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Chrono

Jan 10 2008, 08:56 PM | Post #15

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Firstly,Cafe, a fair question: When did you start playing RS?

Secondly, If you were an old school RN member or similar (If you count my RN and RW post count I have well over 2.5k post) you would know that Summoning has been suggestion MILIONS of times ever since Runescape Classic. You act like you came up with it. This is all wrong and quite honestly, makes you look pathetic.

I started RS back in nov 2001 when most people, me included, were noobs and couldn't spell. The game was great before the release of RS2 but it could not progress. Summoning is a natural proggression for a game like runescape and JaGeX had it in mind for ages. People who started before me like Splatman, Urahoe and so on will agree with me on this.

Our in-house coder Cata has most likely allready found the icon if it indeed was real (the one you mentioned in the post above and in your signature.).

Finally let me tell you this: Just because you are a PLAYER MOD (The entire idea of having player mods is horrendous), have more posts or are mexian does not mean you have any right to claim this skill as your own (by saying "As I suggested").

I will tell you this, eventhough you most likely will ignore this post: Stop being elitist and for the love of god check your grammar.

(side note: Elitism is reserved for those who accually can make some claim to be elite. Pro gamers, Hardcore WoW raiders, talanted coders and so forth) (And yes I know alot of people who is to be considered pro gamers and are infact elite when it comes to this so I know what I speak of.)

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