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The Assist System
 
Assist System
Keep Assist [ 11 ] ** [68.75%]
Abolish Assist [ 5 ] ** [31.25%]
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Jegz
post Nov 8 2007, 04:17 PM | Post #31 +Quote Post

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The assist system keeps naive people from getting scammed, and like someone said, it will calm the market down.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 8 2007, 05:22 PM | Post #32 +Quote Post

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The positive aspect about assist system (30%) is that you can share your skills to friends that comes to you willing to trade. They comes with thread and needle and some leathers. You have full inventory and can't trade. Then you can share your crafting skill and he can make it himself.

Its a good update but im 70% agree to abolish for the causes explained before.
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Jegz
post Nov 8 2007, 05:24 PM | Post #33 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 11:22 AM) [snapback]102294[/snapback]

The positive aspect about assist system (30%) is that you can share your skills to friends that comes to you willing to trade. They comes with thread and needle and some leathers. You have full inventory and can't trade. Then you can share your crafting skill and he can make it himself.

Its a good update but im 70% agree to abolish for the causes explained before.

You just proved my point. everyone wins.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 8 2007, 05:37 PM | Post #34 +Quote Post

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Another reason for improve the assist system is that you sometimes gets the message ' the user have no enable the strength skill for share' or something like that.

I vote that the assist system gets a improvement.

Did someone tested if you can get multiple runes (on members) using the assist system? I'll test on f2p at air temple (but im sure it will fail because air runes are at 1 rc and all can craft it after done quest)...

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Nov 8 2007, 10:33 PM
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Jegz
post Nov 8 2007, 05:39 PM | Post #35 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 11:37 AM) [snapback]102297[/snapback]

Did someone tested if you can get multiple runes (on members) using the assist system? I'll test on f2p at air temple (but im sure it will fail because air runes are at 1 rc and all can craft it after done quest)


I would test but i cant get on right now.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 8 2007, 05:45 PM | Post #36 +Quote Post

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... and a message that says 'the user will charge x amount for use their skills' and if they wants to use your skills then they have to pay something (like x coins for every work using the skill)

The hand emote flashes when you are being assisted but the static player doesn't know if they are not able of assisting (because the player can make it himself) or the player is lazy or novice for use the skill.

Also you can get entangled on wildy while you are assisting on mine runite (on p2p) or get pked on f2p (because you can't run to kbd and tele)
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Jegz
post Nov 8 2007, 05:47 PM | Post #37 +Quote Post

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Well, I think of it like this, assisting in the wild is a bad idea unless you absolutely have to or you just have a deathwish.
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Mysticallity
post Nov 8 2007, 08:36 PM | Post #38 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 05:37 PM)

Another reason for improve the assist system is that you sometimes gets the message ' the user have no enable the strength skill for share' or something like that.

Give more control to the one providing assistance is not a bad thing. For example, one might want to allocate the 30k experience to a particular skill they need, or to keep pures from getting Magic XP.

QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 05:37 PM)

Did someone tested if you can get multiple runes (on members) using the assist system? I'll test on f2p at air temple (but im sure it will fail because air runes are at 1 rc and all can craft it after done quest)...

The friendly manual of RuneScape indicates that it is possible to gain multiple runes providing the assister has the necessary level to do so.

QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 05:45 PM)

... and a message that says 'the user will charge x amount for use their skills' and if they wants to use your skills then they have to pay something (like x coins for every work using the skill)

If this system is anything like the trade system, then it would open up a new front for scam.

Anyway, the Assist System isn't really designed for money making, but to assist others for free in a safer way. By encouraging people to pay for assistance, you're essentially undermining the whole point of assistance in the first place. Money is better spent on raising skills or buying the desired materials directly. The income for the assister would be limited by the amount of experience that can be obtained, the fact that they can earn more by using the skills themselves and the fact that the price would prompt people to look for other assisters who would provide their services for free.

QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Nov 8 2007, 05:45 PM)

Also you can get entangled on wildy while you are assisting on mine runite (on p2p) or get pked on f2p (because you can't run to kbd and tele)

I don't think anybody would use the Assist System to mine high level ores. It would be much better for the higher levels to mine themselves, then give it to the person in need afterwards, either for free or for a small fee. There is no point for two players standing in one place for some ores. It would be a waste of time.

Nobody would mine rune ores on F2P using the Assist System. The lower levelled would be killed, and the higher levelled would not be able to escape. Nobody wins.
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Teh Evil
post Nov 8 2007, 10:12 PM | Post #39 +Quote Post

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QUOTE(bwadbmm @ Nov 6 2007, 02:12 PM) [snapback]102220[/snapback]

one of jagex's worst updates for a while,
exchange thing will ruin merchanting and money making when that comes in

STOP BAD UPDATES JAGEX (please)!!!

Earn money like a real player and stop whining.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 8 2007, 10:36 PM | Post #40 +Quote Post

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My query to jagex...
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Hello, I need clarification on

a) The Air Runes can give multiple runes or not (because assisted people is runecrafting 1)

b) Mining essence with high mining is faster on assisted people or not.

c) The start of periods after reset is modified after reset or keeps constant with the first time we started to assist.

Tears of Guthix makes to wait until get 100k. Please set as limit on System.

Hug
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'a' and 'b' were solved on this topic (look posts above) but 'c' I dunno how works.

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Nov 8 2007, 10:40 PM
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Baakalor
post Nov 9 2007, 01:15 AM | Post #41 +Quote Post

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Pro: Helps stop scamming.
Con: The assister gets experience without lifting a finger.

JAGeX is just catering to the whiners of society who want something for nothing. Some people want to make things they haven't spent the time building the skills on and others want experience for nothing.

It's just another way to mollify the urge for instant gratification. Get rid of it.
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Cafebcs
post Nov 9 2007, 02:09 AM | Post #42 +Quote Post

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Jagex answered me this:
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With Runecrafting you should be able to craft multiple runes if the player has a high enough level.

The player is being who is being assisted will be able to mine at the same speed as the player who is assisting him. However this will only work if the assisted player has a pickaxe which would allow him to mine at this speed.

You will need to wait a day before attempting to use the assist system a second time.
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My routine on f2p:

* Going to karamja with lobbie pot and 30 coins.
* Fish my lobbies and cook them if fire present.
* Teleport to lumbrigde (or assist until 30 mins)
* Cook your lobbies at range next bob axes.
* Run to draynor bank, save and get 30 coins.
* Repeat first step or sell lobbies at varrock east.

You can spent time assisting and then tele to lummy.
If your target needs fire you can take him to lummy.
On lummy range you can share your cooking level.

If your target have 40+ share to him your cooking level.
You will not get penalized but he will burn less food.
Penalized is earn experience on assist system.
Try dont get the 30k or you will have to wait 24 hours.

This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Nov 10 2007, 06:06 PM
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