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 Jun 29 2007, 02:46 AM | Post #1 |
 
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Skills Required: 30 firemaking, 30 strength, 30 crafting, 30 agility. You must have also started The Giant Dwarf Quest.
Items Recommended: Hammer, Bucket, Spade, Coins, Food, Energy Potions (optional).
Note: The hammer, bucket and spade all spawn in the furnace room.
Location: The Blast Furnace is located in the basement of the factory in south eastern Keldagrim. You must have started The Giant Dwarf Quest in order to access the Blast Furnace.
Introduction:
The Blast Furnace is the most efficient smelting device in all of Runescape. It has a 100% success rate for smelting iron and only requires half the amount of coal to smelt bars compared to a normal furnace. For example: Adam would take three coal instead of six and Rune would require just four coal. Since the Blast Furnace requires a lot of attention and work, it’s easier to operate with a group of friends, but it is possible to do it solo.
Operating the Furnace:
There are five primary parts to the Blast Furnace, each using a different skill to run. It’s recommended to switch stations with your friends to share the different variations of experience. You may also talk to the Dwarf Foreman to get a brief runthrough on how each station works.
Pedals:
Operating the pedals turns the conveyor belt which drops ore into the melting pot. It requires 30 Agility and also drains your run energy. Energy Potions are a bonus. Once you are out of energy, you will automatically hop off the bike. You receive roughly one Agility experience per second of pedaling.
Stove:
You will need a spade to keep the stove lit as well as 30 Firemaking. Simply click on the coke holder to get a load of coke, and then click on the stove to refuel it. When the top grate in the stove turns orange, it is hot enough. Using six scoops of coke after the stove has turned orange will keep it running for maximum length and productivity. You receive five Firemaking experience per scoop.
Air Pump:
The air pump requires 30 Strength to operate. Its purpose is to pump the heat from the stove to the furnace. You must watch the heat gauge (see below) to assure it does not overheat or you WILL take damage. You receive two strength experience per pump.
Temperature Gauge:
The temperature gauge shows how hot the Blast Furnace currently is. You must constantly check the gauge while pumping in order to keep it from overheating and taking damage. The white part of the gauge means that the furnace is too cold and needs more pumping/fuelling. The green part of the gauge is the right temperature; where you want the needle to stay. The red means it’s too hot and you must stop pumping. The Temperature Gauge will also alert the reader if the stove is low on fuel or if there is a broken part.
Broken Parts:
With most machinery, parts occasionally break/leak and there is no exception for the Blast Furnace. You need 30 Crafting and a hammer in order to repair parts. There are two pipes that break near the Gauge and two cogs that stop working next to the bicycle. You receive 50 experience for each repair.
Shops:
Ore Shop:
Ordan the ore salesman sells every ore up to Mith. This store offers a faster way to smelt by selling your noted ores to Ordan and buying them back. Ordans shop is also restocked by a NPC who, quite frequently, drops off random ores.
Armour Shop:
Jorzik runs his own armour shop near Ordan. He sells all types of armour ranging from Mith to Rune, but unfortunately he does not stock his own shop. All items in the shop are made by players.
Smelting Ores:
Walk up the ramp on the northwest side and use an ore on the conveyor belt. Anyone can put ores onto the conveyor belt and receive bars, but players under 60 smithing will have to pay a 2500gp fee or 1250gp while wearing the Ring of Charos.
You will then have an option to put all your ores on the conveyor belt. If your ores get into the furnace, you will not lose them, even if you log out. You WILL lose them if you leave them on the conveyor though.
If you are using the Blast Furnace by yourself, you will have to run along the outside of the furnace and use each station in order. (Pedals, Stove, Pump, Repairs, Gauge). You should see your ores move along the belt and be deposited into the Melting Pot. After everything has been operated correctly, you should see the Bar Dispenser turn orange. Use a bucket of water on it to cool it down and collect them.
If you choose to smith your bars, you have the option of using the anvils in the fenced in area, provided that you are a level 60 or higher smither. There is also an anvil north of the general store and southwest of the bank that is free for anyone to use.
How to Solo the Blast Furnace:
Items Required: Hammer, Bucket, Spade, Coins
- Place your ores on the Conveyor Belt
- Operate the pedals to drop your ores into the melting pot (May also need to fix the conveyor belt during this time if it breaks)
- Shovel coke into the furnace until it is glowing orange.
- Operate the pump. Watch for when your bars are completed by moving the camera into position. You should also watch for broken pipes that may need repairing.
- Fill your bucket with water and then use it with the bar dispenser to quickly cool your bars.
Tips:
- If you are smithing on site, it's a good idea to smith stackable items, such as knifes or arrowheads, or to high alch as you smith to save from banking
- Selling noted ore to Ordans store saves a lot of time banking
- You receive bonus experience for smelting gold ore while wielding the Goldsmithing Gauntlets obtained from The Family Crest Quest.
Could someone please make a map of the Blast Furnace and the location of it? Also, if you have any constructive feedback, that would help a lot.
This post has been edited by Dilbert26: Jul 9 2007, 07:17 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 04:44 AM | Post #2 |
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One thing that might help is to specify that you only need to pay if you're smelting ore and have under 60 smithing. If you're over 60 smithing or if you're just operating the furnace (at any smithing level) it costs nothing. I know you eluded to that the second time you mentioned payment, but the first bit about cash and 60 smithing made it sound like you needed cash or 60 smithing just to enter the room.
Also, the guage can be cut out completely by making sure you can hear sound effects. When the furnace smelts a load of bars it makes and sort of strained popping sound (similar to someone pulling the cork out of a bottle). Likewise when something breaks you'll also hear it.
As for supplies, everything you need spawns right in the furnace room. The only exception is energy pots, cash, and food, and the food you probably won't need anyways unless you just keep overpumping on purpose.
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Jun 29 2007, 07:51 AM | Post #3 |
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Talking about ouside room. At north there is a coal mines place. At east there is the dorgeskann-keldagrim train where you can bank for more supplies (or just break a sphere for quick tele)
At south you can go to dwarves mines. You can use also a necklace of skills for go to crafting guild/minning guild and mine coal or gold.
Jagex updated blast furnace for accept the goldsmith gauntlets' extra xp.
For experienced users (mith smelters+) you can take advantage of the fact of 50% coal needed. You may remember that in your inventory you had 9 iron ore and 18 coal and run to furnace. On blast furnace you can run with 9 mith ore and 18 coal for do the same. Bring money on the free slot for pay the furnace. 1250 is nothing compared with that you save 50% coal every run.
I don't suggest addy or runite ore for blast furnace, better xp/cash/time is with mith.
I love minning. I have lots of suggests but maybe on next oportunities.
This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jun 29 2007, 08:02 AM
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Jun 29 2007, 02:41 PM | Post #4 |
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Cafebcs, I am thinking about adding a little section explaining how to solo the Blast Furnace. There is something here about it, but it is not very good imho. If you want to write a little something on how to solo the blast furnace, that would be appreciated. I may also add a little info on a few places in Keldagrim that goes with the Blast Furnace, like you said (Mines, Quick Banks etc), but not right now.
I also added a subheading for tips for the furnace. If anyone know any, that would help.
Is there anything else that this guide is lacking that should be added to make it more informative/easier to understand?
Edit: I'm not sure how often you have to repay the 2500gp...I thought it was every 10 minutes but i'm not sure...Anyone 100% on how that works?
This post has been edited by Dilbert26: Jun 29 2007, 03:08 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 02:44 PM | Post #5 |
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Jun 29 2007, 03:59 PM | Post #6 |
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Edit: I'm not sure how often you have to repay the 2500gp...I thought it was every 10 minutes but i'm not sure...Anyone 100% on how that works?
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Hmm, you might want to add when you have to pay the dwarf again? If I recall, you have to pay him again when you leave by going up the ladder
Bringing money, you can also buy mith ore/coal and after use it on the... (omg i forgot the name, and also Dilbert you forgot say about that too) the place where we set our coal/ore before pedaling. In case you adding ores and logout, the ore will stay there invisible for others and you will never lost it on any part of the process. The is a limit of coal used (256) and ore used (depends of the type of ore you use - ore/coal needed)When you do solo, you can hop worlds and buy coal and mith, but please use your private chat off if you do
Then you can be there until the time ends, around 20 minutes.EDIT: Conventyor Belt? I'm not sure if its the name
ADVICE: Never use ore that you can't smelt. I used runite (im mining 85) and the furnace accepted it, but it don't want make me rune bars because my smithing level (74) I think it's a bug/glitch. It affects you because you can't use to the maximum the blast furnace, since the ore that you can't smelt is still stored there.
This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jun 29 2007, 04:14 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 07:19 PM | Post #7 |
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QUOTE(Cafebcs @ Jun 29 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]96434[/snapback]
Bringing money, you can also buy mith ore/coal and after use it on the... (omg i forgot the name, and also Dilbert you forgot say about that too) the place where we set our coal/ore before pedaling. In case you adding ores and logout, the ore will stay there invisible for others and you will never lost it on any part of the process. The is a limit of coal used (256) and ore used (depends of the type of ore you use - ore/coal needed)
When you do solo, you can hop worlds and buy coal and mith, but please use your private chat off if you do
Then you can be there until the time ends, around 20 minutes.EDIT: Conventyor Belt? I'm not sure if its the name
ADVICE: Never use ore that you can't smelt. I used runite (im mining 85) and the furnace accepted it, but it don't want make me rune bars because my smithing level (74) I think it's a bug/glitch. It affects you because you can't use to the maximum the blast furnace, since the ore that you can't smelt is still stored there.
I already mentioned something like that:
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If your ores get into the furnace, you will not lose them, even if you log out. You WILL lose them if you leave them on the conveyor though.
How long ago did you try using a rune ore with the blast furnace? If it still accepts ore that you cannot smelt/smith, i'll add something in. I would try it myself but I can smelt all ores
This post has been edited by Dilbert26: Jun 29 2007, 07:20 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 07:46 PM | Post #8 |
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How long ago did you try using a rune ore with the blast furnace? If it still accepts ore that you cannot smelt/smith, i'll add something in. I would try it myself but I can smelt all ores
I really suggest don't test if jagex fixed that. Is really annoying that when you adding the ore and the coal appears the message "you already have ore on the furnace, try smelt some" and have to drop some ore/coal for smith quick and recover the dropped stuff.I think I have 6 runite ore on the furnace stored. Its like have 24 iron ore stored or 12 mith ore stored :\
About how long ago, was when I got 84 mining and I used dwarven stout for mine runite ore. Is not a lot ago, but was a bit before Jagex made the "another slice of HAM" quest and "24 carat update". Also before Jagex accepts goldsmith gauntlets xp. Hope they fixed it on that update. I want just you can't add a ore that you can't smelt and all is ok
First time I see Catatifish online, reading forums (this one). Hi ^_^
This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jun 29 2007, 07:59 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 11:42 PM | Post #9 |
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QUOTE(Dilbert26 @ Jun 29 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]96427[/snapback]
Edit: I'm not sure how often you have to repay the 2500gp...I thought it was every 10 minutes but i'm not sure...Anyone 100% on how that works?
Actually it is, but if you leave the furnace room your time also expires. As for soloing the furnace, well that actually pretty easy.
First you go up the ramp and deposit your ores on the conveyor belt. From there you get the hammer if you don't already have one on you. After that operate the pedals until your ores fall into the furnace. Then pick up the spade if needed, and start shoveling coke into the stove. You only need to do so until it's bright orange, but you can keep going longer if you want to. Then, make sure your computer's speakers are on and sound effect volume is turned up to where you can hear it, and start pumping. If you hear a sound like something straining and popping then your ores are smelted. Stop pumping at this point or you will take damage soon after. If you hear a more metallic sound followed by the sound of steam escaping then something is broken. Once smelting is complete grab the bucket, fill it with water, and use it on the bar dispenser.
The breaking sound is pretty easy to distinguish because it's the only sound the blast furnace makes that isn't a "smelting done" alert, and that isn't a direct sound effect of what you're doing. If you can't hear sound effects, simply turn your camera so that you can see the other areas of the furnace at the same time.
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Jun 30 2007, 01:59 PM | Post #10 |
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If you can't hear sound effects, simply turn your camera so that you can see the other areas of the furnace at the same time.
Also helps see the man yelling "repair the conveytor belt" or "the pipe is broken"For smithers 70+ doing solo, I would like to discuss about addy ore/bars and if worths make addy bars instead mith there.
My experience is mine the addy at level 30 wilderness and bring unnoted to the blast furnace, but I want to hear what you think.
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Jun 30 2007, 08:12 PM | Post #11 |
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Jul 1 2007, 07:46 AM | Post #12 |
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Well this guide is on how to operate the furnace, not on how to maximize your XP or make money with it. Save that for the "How to make money in RuneScape" (or whatever it's called) guide that's already a sticky if I'm not mistaken.
I insist on discuss here because is not the same make addy bars using 6 coals than using 3 coals. Also because the ore store dont accept noted addy for buy/sell.This post has been edited by Cafebcs: Jul 1 2007, 07:48 AM
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Jul 14 2007, 08:52 AM | Post #13 |
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http://www.runeweb.net/index.php?page=rs2-mgame-blastfurn
I also have your staff password Dilbert so contact me on irc.
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Jul 14 2007, 02:58 PM | Post #14 |
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You can train Agility there, bring some energy restores and pedal all the time you want (or until you have to fix the conventyor belt)
Im not sure but I think you get like 5xp agil per second, 5xp fm per fuel and 5xp str per pump.
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