Serious Events Discussion, O, I am like a mini-makoto, wif dis thinking and st00f |
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| Deathbyape |
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QUOTE(Makoto @ Mar 12 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]90312[/snapback] /me hands Deathbyape a microphone Let's hear it, then. 
There's a reason I didn't apply for the Events team. Creating ideas for events is the whole point of the RW Events team, right? So instead of focusing idea's into existing minigames, maybe you should try focusing them on new, fresh ideas.
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| Ltangel |
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Why not just plan your normal events and don't mention whether anything will be dropped or not... Pick random events (lol no pun intended) to have a drop party at the end... Catch the ones who stayed til the end with the element of surprise!
I'm mainly retired from RW and only drop by occassionally, mostly when Geo sends me a pm that he is having another party for something or another, hehehe
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QUOTE(Deathbyape @ Mar 12 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]90301[/snapback] I'm just going to lay out my blunt opinion on this: Maybe it's not the communities fault for just showing up at drop parties and not the other events. Runescape is a game, and games are supposed to be fun. Drop parties are fun from pretty much every angle. People may go out of their way to go to a drop party. However, with Castlewars anybody can go there at anytime. There is not much novelty. If people don't find it fun then they are not going to go, and shouldn't be "forced" to go and waste their time just so that they can make the events team feel good. Regardless I don't think it's appropriate to be blaming the community for low turnouts and making them feel guilty about not coming to an event for whatever reason they have. I also don't think it's appropriate to have this be a public discussion... Anyways, maybe we should try and think up some different events that are new, fun, reward people, and unique. Not just minigames that are implemented into Runescape. I know it's much easier said than done, but it's not like we don't have a group of people dedicated to doing these kinds of things 
I agree, but not in all.
About castle wars, a poll was made and i believe most of our members choosed it. I understand you can have anything better irl to do but if you was online why not check this out? It would take 20 min and you can have a little talk with rw members, have some fun and laughs. Sure you arent forced to come and indeed about ne1 can be blamed about it. To me interation with another people is part of fun. Problem is, whats fun to rw members? To most of people is click like crazy trying a 99 to walk around with a fancy skill cape. And i believe thats why people dont show off (trying to reach some goals). I can be wrong, but thats what i think.
About barrows... Well, rw was down and i want to believe thats why not much people did it. I think this kind of event you should come and help. Drops party are fun right? Well, you need members to raise money and host one. Sure you arent obligate to show in all raising funds events but if you can come to drops partys you should be able to come to atleast 1. Before anyone complain about "im low lvl" remember, thats always a way to help (e.g. running food).
Indeed about new kinds of events but we should help the events team. This guys are working hard making polls, checking the best time to host and planning the whole events. And yes, looks like people will massive show off only when the event have great rewards.
Im not blaming anyone, thats just my point of view. Well, im really sorry about my english, thats why i usually never reply long topics. If its too hard to understand please tell me.
This post has been edited by ffbf: Mar 13 2007, 12:39 PM
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| Twilight Ray |
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http://forums.runeweb.net/index.php?s=&...ost&p=24107
Refer to the bottom of his post.
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I say note down all the people you belive as active and jot them down in admin forums.. Then when it comes to drop add that list, and keep your friends on "Private".. That way only active people can get into the drop 
Another way would be to say when it is on IRC (Although it is a bit unfair to those who dont have it, but i belive 90% of active people use the IRC)
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| spikey188 |
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i dont ahve irc adn probly less teh 90% of active people dont..
This post has been edited by spikey188: Mar 14 2007, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE i dont ahve irc adn probly less teh 90% of active people dont.. Actually, most active people here on the forums are avid members of IRC. 90% may have been an exaggeration, but I'd say the mean majority, or 51% , use IRC on a constant basis.
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Doesn't apply to date anymore. When Content takes another major leap forward with their content advances, then we could host a serious and major drop party. Until then, why do you dare bring up FBX?
QUOTE Why not just plan your normal events and don't mention whether anything will be dropped or not... Pick random events (lol no pun intended) to have a drop party at the end... Catch the ones who stayed til the end with the element of surprise!
Might be worth considering. Sounds like a hassle, but it's worth considering.
You really should be more active; we could use it.
QUOTE About castle wars, a poll was made and i believe most of our members choosed it. I understand you can have anything better irl to do but if you was online why not check this out? It would take 20 min and you can have a little talk with rw members, have some fun and laughs. Sure you arent forced to come and indeed about ne1 can be blamed about it.
That's absolutely right. People voted for that event. They didn't show up, so Democracy just took a major blow from its pride. My guess is that people did have other things to do that day...Even so, doesn't make much sense to me that people would vote for an event and not show up for it.
QUOTE Anyways, maybe we should try and think up some different events that are new, fun, reward people, and unique. Not just minigames that are implemented into Runescape. I know it's much easier said than done, but it's not like we don't have a group of people dedicated to doing these kinds of things 
It might be worth considering to do something unique. Events team could possibly be shifting towards things that separate it from everyone else.
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I'd prefer this to be out in the open, because I'd like to know what to host for people. Doesn't make sense to have an event that no one's ever going to show up to do, so that's why Arab made this topic. It'd be less of a burden on Events if people told us what events they really wanted to have instead of the cookiecutter ones we normally come up with.
I'll go post in the Events forum right now and ask everyone's opinion.
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My 2cents:
Things like CW, a lot ofo ppl would generally not go to normally anyway. There is no benefit to the individual player except maybe exp which they would probably be able to get faster fighting normal monsters and the 'fun factor'. For Drop parties there is a good probability that they will get something out of it (ie. a good drop) and so they are more likely to turn up.
I think something new and interesting needs to be thought up or hold events where the average player is likely to be able to get something out of it. I thought the iron war was a good idea.
My ideas:
Scavenger Hunt (we might of had one a while back?): set a time and place and give everyone a list of random items they have to acquire. Ppl who acquire the items w/in a certain time get some type of prize.
"Runescape Race" (for want of a better name): Have several RW ppl scattered around the RS world. Contestants would have to start at a designated area where they will be checked off. They are then given a location and a person to find who will then trade them the next item to prove that they have reached them and then given another location and RW person to find and so on. (all previous items should be shown before the new item is traded to them) Guy at last location (contestants won't know who is last) holds prizes which will be given to the first X ppl to rock up with the items traded to them by the ppl at the specified locations.
*Might also be nice to give event team a banner on top of forums or RW to advertise upcoming events.
This post has been edited by Dxgr8ter: Mar 14 2007, 05:48 AM
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Well, I guess it is about time I post here. Everyone has pretty much said what I think but here it is anyway, summed up to the max.
1) People mainly go to drop parties because people get free stuff. It is worth their time to go to a drop party, have some fun and leave with a nice haul of items. If people do not gain from the event, they would rather do something beneficial.
2) Uniqueness. People won't necessarily want to go out of their way to attend an event that is normal/boring and something that they could do without rw, like castlewars for example. (Yes, i know, they voted for this but it is a good example). I agree with the idea of creating 'unique' events. I think it is a great idea but it is a lot of work to come up with good unique events, that is why we need others oppinions.
We could easily attract more members by somehow implementing rewards for every event, but that is not going to happen. Imo, unique events would be the way to go to attract more participation.
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What about an event that gives? Eg. Exp, Money etc.? Or one completely not able to do on a regular basis?
Examples would be: - Skill Minigames (Rum Deal is bloody hard to find a decent world so a lot of people just dont go) - The iron wars etc.
Just few ideas i thought in 10 secs
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| Twilight Ray |
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I brought up Travakh because he's right. Why do people not come to events? Yeah, it's partly because they don't get anything, but I think that it's also because a lot of the advantages of the mini games are the fun factor DX mentioned. Now, if the people don't feel like they're a part of the community, it'd be just like playing CW with puggers. That's why it's usually the same old core showing up to events, because they're coming to be with friends. Other than said core, there aren't a lot of people here who have friends here, meaning they have no reason to come to our non-profit events.
So, this brings us to the next question. How do we get enough people here to start building a new community? The first, and most obvious (which will ignored after it's mentioned for irrelevance to my point) is to have all of our older members who uh, hate everyone (yes myself included) to stop being dicks to all newcomers. Next to that, we need something that makes our website stand out in front of the rest (or at least stand equal with them.) Now, how do we do that? We either throw party after party after party, which we don't have the funds for, or we make people come here because of our great content. Now, which seems easier?
I didn't understand back then, but I do now. If you want to have successfull non-profit events, you need a moderate sized community. If you want a moderate sized community, you need something to make them join the community. Stop throwing event after event out that no one cares about or comes to, and make the site worth going to.
This is why we need FBX.
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SHUT UP YOU NOOOB
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| Twilight Ray |
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You want him back too.
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OF COURSE I DO, I NEVER WISHED HE LEFT
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| Deathbyape |
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QUOTE(Makoto @ Mar 13 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]90375[/snapback] That's absolutely right. People voted for that event. They didn't show up, so Democracy just took a major blow from its pride. My guess is that people did have other things to do that day...Even so, doesn't make much sense to me that people would vote for an event and not show up for it.
http://forums.runeweb.net/index.php?showtopic=11216 Not sure if that is the right poll, but judging by the dates I think it is. If this is the correct poll, then uhh well Castlewars only got 2 votes total. Not exactly the "people's choice" imo
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