Mysticallity

Jan 2 2007, 11:34 PM | Post #16

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QUOTE(Twilight Ray @ Jan 2 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]84023[/snapback]

HE'S BLACK, HE CAN'T TAN.

He can tan BLACK-ER.

Just to be on the safe side, it's best not to use SS at all. IF Jagex manages to find out that you are accessing certain parts of the website directly (i.e. not via the website, but links, like highscores or world map), then they might just ban you on the spot. Although I highly doubt it would happen.

This post has been edited by Mysticallity: Jan 2 2007, 11:35 PM

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Slim50

Jan 3 2007, 12:25 AM | Post #17

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What a shame...I mean, it's understandable why Jagex is doing it and all, but damn. I really enjoyed using SS with all it's tools and what not. plus that's the only time I ever got on #runeweb..tee hee. 'Spose I'll have to start using MIrc again.

I'm glad to see that jagex is trying to put together some clan chat thing. Although I don't know how well it'll work seeing as they're anti-community and that's kind of pro-community. UNLESS they go and do something stupid like make the clan chat thing only accessible to clans that are on the RS forums. -.- It'd be just like them to do that. Hopefully it doesn't though. Whatever they do, I hope it's good.

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dark sloth1

Jan 3 2007, 12:50 AM | Post #18

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Aww damn it now I have to find another thing to use for IRC...


Anybody that knows any please post ftw?

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Cky

Jan 3 2007, 03:06 AM | Post #19

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mIRC

Or you can view the main page and go to "IRC Chat" and click on that to use the IRC Applet.

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xatmo97

Jan 3 2007, 01:14 PM | Post #20

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If you actually read all the rules this should make alot of people much happier:
jagex:
Further to that, I just want to clarify a few extra things:
We're also looking at adding an official 'group chat' system ASAP for clans and other groups of players to use.

I dont know about you but one of the main reasons i use ss is for my clan and clan chat. So for 99% of us out there it should be aight. the only downside to this is it will probably still be censored and the fact that you still wont be able to advertise sites and such on iit. (basically the main reason i used it so i could advertise my clan site so it could be copied and pasted rather easily cause for some reason peeps always have problems with finding the site.) Anyways as long as you dont log into and use swift you wont be banned from using it. SO the usefull calculators and counters/timers. and all that will still be available to you. Plus they said they cant fend people off of using msn and aim. They warn against using it so you wont be scammed or hacked . Also if you read in there it says you cant reverse program there runescape to make your own server. Im not sure but if i remember right and the law hasnt changed they cant stop you from doing this. Microsoft one of the worlds largest companies still does this today. Its not illegal but can get you banned if they ever find out. But technically its not against the law because when you backwards engineer something something always comes out different making it a completely different game/program. Also jagex says it has new "methods of detection" but seriously they say that about all macros and autoers. Ive seen many afriend use auto talkers. Not to say i have ever used them cause i type like 60 words a min or so but how could they ever technically find that. But for sure all third party programs that act with the Rs client when playing it on the official runescape site is supposedly not approved. Only third party programs such as caluculators and such that dont talk or connect to the rs world are allowed. Meaning aim and msn included. Also using the calcs on swift switch dont connect to rs so its ok to use them jagex even says so. using the highscores lookup technically wouldnt be affected. Lets think about this many of these differenet webs that host therer own irc's have a sig's page that looks up highscores to make sig's right? So sure you could detect the program from using it but then all sites using high score look ups would be in the wrong for using such data to make sigs. The only reason i use ss's high score lookup is cause its easy and convient. Also i dont have to switch between screens when i may be out in the wildy about to pk a pure mage and think its just some lvl 70 noob im about to attack. Ah 9 lvl differences wont affect me yeah right.

This post has been edited by xatmo97: Jan 3 2007, 01:22 PM

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tanoru

Jan 3 2007, 01:28 PM | Post #21

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hmmm dont you think it qould be cool to have a webpage where you could access everythinG, every world, rs map, rs forums all runehq stuff and a space where you can log into IRC and u wouldnt even have to change sites

This post has been edited by tanoru: Jan 3 2007, 01:29 PM

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Samhomie

Jan 3 2007, 01:29 PM | Post #22

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omfg!

this was uncalled for, i used it many time as the calculators amny time as its helpful to see when you but now i have to swap between pages. irc chat never work for me so i not botherd about the i use msn most the time but there was no need to ban it as it wasnt hurting anyone...

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Dilbert26

Jan 3 2007, 01:58 PM | Post #23

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Don't worry everyone. Jagex changed their minds due to great amount of feedback and they are now legal again.

Taken From RuneScape.com

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Following yesterday's update to Rule 7 and Rule 9, we have tweaked them both a bit more - to take into account some constructive feedback and thoughts we've had on the matter. Thanks to the people who have been helping us get these right rather than just ranting at us! Particularly our thanks to Strider. We believe the latest revision is still just as good at protecting our users, which is very important to us, but is also less restrictive (which is also important to us!). Please take the time to re-read both rules and make sure you fully understand them. Thanks.

Of course, having said all that we should remind everyone that downloading third party RuneScape programs is potentially extremely dangerous and still not at all recommended. Please be aware that there are programs out there which claim to be a cool RuneScape add-on, but actually install a keylogger on your computer and steal your password! You should also be aware that there are such programs around that won't necessarily be spotted by your anti-virus software. Scanning downloads is, of course, a very good idea but it still doesn't 100% eliminate the risk.

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Mysticallity

Jan 3 2007, 02:52 PM | Post #24

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I reckon they shouldn't have done it, or even that quickly. The amount of disrespect to Jagex just disgusts me. Even if they were only doing it for the adverts, they have already banned many members and lost more than enough money to justify that they're only keeping their players safe.

If you can't use SS, then use alternative methods. If the alternatives are causing you inconvenience, then deal with it or don't play at all. It's time for us to either complain constructively, stick with the changes, or stop playing RuneScape altogether.

It might be my pessimism, but now I hate to think that everyone is happy because their protest worked. What's next? A protest on how Pest Control makes leveling too easy? A protest on how everything should be as hard as RSC was? A protest on party hats to be dropped again? Jagex is becoming weaker every moment, catering to insolents. They need to start standing up for their decisions.

I really hope that those who got muted or banned stay that way (unless they were innocent) because they were lazy (can't be bothered to use any alternatives, can't be bothered to use the World Select page for servers other than 1/2) and inconsiderate (to those who didn't use SS and got hacked and Jagex Staff). They are even willing to risk hours of their training for such a trivial matter and the inability to rant properly on the forums. How stupid is that?

It's time to do things in an orderly fasion and live with the harsh world, not to threaten the end of RuneScape.

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Slim50

Jan 3 2007, 05:50 PM | Post #25

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Frankly...I think that Jagex only "tweaked" the rules because Strider really really protested it and actually gave constructive suggestions. As mentioned in the update. The mass flaming was probably just a little push of it.

As for them changing it, I'm kind of pleased that they did so that I can use SS again. I am however dissapointed with how they handled it.

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Third party programs/websites that embed a pane displaying the RuneScape game within themselves (i.e. third party RuneScape clients such as world switchers) must not be used to access the game unless that program/website does nothing to encourage breaking of our rules and does not endanger users' accounts. In any case, the use of such programs is not recommended. Authors creating such software may wish to read this article for advice on how to make a third party client which does not encourage rule breaking or endanger users' accounts.

That's part of rule 7. Frankly they just made that grey area worse. And if anything they made it sound different. This would have been a perfect time for Jagex to open up to the outside community and websites by making a RS Certified Site list as well as a client list. THAT would clarify rule seven a bit.

This post has been edited by Slim50: Jan 3 2007, 05:51 PM

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dark sloth1

Jan 3 2007, 06:22 PM | Post #26

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Great now I have to re-install SS...

Damn you JaGeX...

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p4r3 j4m3s

Jan 3 2007, 07:17 PM | Post #27

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well atleast your allowed to use ss now so its all good again unless they randomly change their mind

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Samhomie

Jan 3 2007, 07:39 PM | Post #28

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QUOTE(p4r3 j4m3s @ Jan 3 2007, 07:17 PM) [snapback]84103[/snapback]

well atleast your allowed to use ss now so its all good again unless they randomly change their mind

bout time it was stupid idea

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Slim50

Jan 3 2007, 10:02 PM | Post #29

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QUOTE(dark sloth1 @ Jan 3 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]84096[/snapback]

Great now I have to re-install SS...

Damn you JaGeX...

Dark I don't think you understand what Jagex was trying to do. They trying to save you from what they saw a threat to your account. You should be happy that they did what they did as well as be grateful that Jagex agreed that SS was usable.

Re-installing SS will take like 2 minutes, so please don't complain. Be happy they're allowing everyone to use it again.

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MaxTheDragon

Jan 3 2007, 10:20 PM | Post #30

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This is bad. Now they've changed it back again.

All the people who spammed are being rewarded.

They mention someone in the news whose opinion is strongly biased!

They messed up big time now.

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