Spiderchild

Jan 2 2007, 05:48 PM | Post #1

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this is completely outrageous - they use of such third party clients has apparently become out of control since they are now bundled with basic IRC chats - since Jagex has no power of how peopel can communicate over irc and use runescape at the same time, they think they are screwed.

well you have just choked most of your members Jagex - the game is no fun when i have to arrange my screen like this:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3955/im...runescapwt1.png

just so that i can play rs and IRC at the same time. (if you have no tabs on firefox, and hide your navigation bar, then arrange your mirc so that you hide the the menubar and toolbar - then move the switch bar to the top as shown)

This leaves a hge amount of black space either side of runescape - why isn't this black space being used?

Comments welcomed

EDIT:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2938/20...75328037jb3.png

this is what i'm using at the mo - i might move the chat back to the bottom as it is kinda annoying at the top.

This post has been edited by Spiderchild: Jan 2 2007, 05:57 PM

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Oli

Jan 2 2007, 06:15 PM | Post #2

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I simply just switch between the two.. I've never used SwiftSwitch or whatever for irc. It sucks..

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MaxTheDragon

Jan 2 2007, 06:19 PM | Post #3

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This is not outrageous at all.

Suppose that someone would hack Swiftswitch and spread their malicious version, being advertised as a new update. You'd be screwed, my friend.

Whether software is malicious or not, Jagex can only guarantee safety in their own client, or by using a standard non-runescape related browser such as IE or Firefox. 3rd party software cannot be trusted.

Jagex is protecting the players, which is very appreciated.

You don't want to know how much spam I lock on the official forums everyday, about players getting hacked or scammed due to all sorts of 3rd party software, and mostly programs similar to Swiftswitch.

I'm glad Jagex cleared the confusion about this subject.

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Loggy

Jan 2 2007, 06:38 PM | Post #4

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LOL

OWNED

Since this isn't really game news and there's already a topic here, here it shall stay, and talk about it here if you want. I don't really care; I've always used mIRC and switched over to the RS Client. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Jagex rethinks this, over all the people ticked off.

Anyway, I suppose we have to be meaner about people mentioning SwiftSwitch and such, eh?

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Twilight Ray

Jan 2 2007, 06:40 PM | Post #5

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QUOTE(MaxTheDragon @ Jan 2 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]83979[/snapback]

I'm glad Jagex cleared the confusion about this subject.

Same. I never used a client in my 3 years of playing RS, and I never needed to. I've heard countless stuff about, "Well, Jagex has never said it's actually illegal!" So I'm glad that it's finally done with.

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Makoto

Jan 2 2007, 06:44 PM | Post #6

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/me notices the rules on RuneScape, then gets up from his hammock, grabs a pen and paper

AT LAST. This has FINALLY cleared up a lot of grey area regarding this add-on and the rules.

Personally I've never used SS, so I'm celebrating its defeat by the rules. In truth I've never felt a real need to. Switching worlds at breakneck paces isn't really needed for me, nor is it truly in the spirit of the game. (If you've ever tried to get on World 2 legit, you'd understand.)

If you are struggling for a new way to play RS and use mIRC/NNS, simply unmaximise your window size of the RS client and place your client in the right-hand corner. If you are using FireFox, I recommend that you use the RS client if you want to continue using mIRC/NNS.

/me grabs alcohol and proceeds to party like it's 1999, then disappears into the shadows

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Spiderchild

Jan 2 2007, 09:08 PM | Post #7

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bugger.

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Mysticallity

Jan 2 2007, 09:32 PM | Post #8

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I rarely use SS anyway, unless I wanted to seriously play RS, which I don't do nowadays. Oh well, more space for me. *uninstalls*

Jagex is just plain awesome in chaotic situations such as this. All hail random mutes and bans.

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Cky

Jan 2 2007, 09:43 PM | Post #9

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To be honest I almost expected it to happen sooner or later, but whats done is done, I shall be uninstalling mine as well.

It had a good run though, I hope SwiftIRC survives.

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Axis Of Evil

Jan 2 2007, 09:46 PM | Post #10

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I noticed something in the update on the main page that said "use these programs at your own risk. Does this mean that you will get banned if you use clients like SwiftSwitch?

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Mysticallity

Jan 2 2007, 09:52 PM | Post #11

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Yes, but people are currently debating on whether Jagex could really detect the usage.

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Makoto

Jan 2 2007, 10:28 PM | Post #12

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QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2007, 02:52 PM) [snapback]84010[/snapback]

Yes, but people are currently debating on whether Jagex could really detect the usage.

/me is forced rather crankily out of his hammock again

It is common sense that every computer system and even TCP/IP knows what client you're connecting from.

The below is from a packet connecting to an arbirtary server:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

Obviously, I'm using Firefox so that would show up.

This is for IE:

User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)

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What I'm getting at is that it isn't wholly impossible for Jagex to detect the usage of any specific client. Each "agent" must identify in a certain way. So debating that it isn't detectable is rather futile; you can detect it no problem.

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Mysticallity

Jan 2 2007, 10:41 PM | Post #13

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Apparently, SS uses Internut Explorer to connect to RS. Eh, I don't even know this stuff.

QUOTE(Makoto @ Jan 2 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]84015[/snapback]

/me is forced rather crankily out of his hammock again

I WAS RIGHT. YOU ARE TANNING (UNUSUALLY) ON SOME UNKNOWN BEACH WITH WOMEN.

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Axis Of Evil

Jan 2 2007, 10:56 PM | Post #14

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Question: Would I be allowed to talk on the irc client on SwiftSwitch as long as I don't play RuneScape (which I barely ever do anyway), or is SwiftSwitch just generally a no-no?

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Twilight Ray

Jan 2 2007, 11:07 PM | Post #15

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QUOTE(Mysticallity @ Jan 2 2007, 05:41 PM) [snapback]84019[/snapback]

Apparently, SS uses Internut Explorer to connect to RS. Eh, I don't even know this stuff.
I WAS RIGHT. YOU ARE TANNING (UNUSUALLY) ON SOME UNKNOWN BEACH WITH WOMEN.

HE'S BLACK, HE CAN'T TAN.

Axis, if you aren't connecting to RS with the client, then how would they ever be able to link it to your account?

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