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| Ardohoth |
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cough cough
Though i dont post much on these forums i like to log in here because in many occasions the conversations are funny. I allways like to look on topics in general discussion and in the section of the treasure trails and bank pictures
To my knowledge allmost all the major fun sites have clan sections. runescape community and Zybez has huge sections about this matter. I know this may cause troubles but in my opinion you have to risk it. You can bring thousants of people with this.
The spititual level of people who are in this communtity is high. BUT what is the spititual lvl of the majority of kids who play RS. In the most cases its low. Now i dont want to insult anyone with this but people afraid of you guys. In some cases i think their fear makes them not posting. RW has 3000 members but even in this case most of them dont post why is that? The answer is simple they afraid.
You all have to think that IF the style of the site (Forums) change to something more childish then there is agreat danger that things will become cold without sentiments. Are you ready guys to take this risk?
In the big sites people dont care about each other if RW becomes like this then you will get many people in here but smiles and loughing will be lost
BUT who knows perhaps things will remain like now (I dont really believe this)
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| Ian |
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Considering most active ircers have been on RN/RW for much, much longer than the people on these forums, they should definately NOT be forced to change channels.
THATS LUDACRIS SAID THE COW.
QUOTE(Cky @ Dec 3 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]81068[/snapback] I don't think the respective staff here at RuneWeb is going to auction Moderator/Administrator positions to people.
What we need is to find the best suited people, have them apply in their best words, and go from there, because whether or not you guys want to admit it, there is TOO MUCH SPAM. More moderators and staff members would not hurt RW at all, except for making other people jealous, which they will ultimately have to deal with, because there are several members here at RW, including Dilbert, who I believe fill the moderator position requirements 10 fold, Dilbert has been at RN and RW since 2002, and has been nothing but a good honest member.
Simply because he's been here since 2002 (Which he hasn't, I do believe.) Doesn't mean he should be a mod.
We have enough mods. It's that easy. With a forum that has only around 2 new threads a day having 6 mods is not neccesary. Hell, one mod could control the activity on these forums.
OH EM GEE I DOUBLE POSTED.
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| SupaPhat |
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Why is the title GLORIOUS COMMUNITY, if it was this glorious we wouldn't have a use for this topic, AND where are my gold slippers if its so glorious?
Our Almost-But-Not-Quite-Thriving Community: RuneWeb
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| Makoto |
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QUOTE(SupaPhat @ Dec 3 2006, 07:48 PM) [snapback]81120[/snapback] Why is the title GLORIOUS COMMUNITY, if it was this glorious we wouldn't have a use for this topic, AND where are my gold slippers if its so glorious?
The goldsmith was out today, but the glass maker was in, Supa-rella.
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I've noticed a lot more activity going on around the forums and I'm really happy for that. Since Data announced that users could help by fixing up content which wasn't Priority #1, people have been chipping in their best efforts. That's great.
Post more suggestions if you can!
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| Ian |
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Perhaps we could have more events, more parties. That generally brings in people.
Pk trips are allso a good source of revenue.
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| Slim50 |
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Seeing as I'm churning out ideas...This pertains to Makoto's Treasure Trail topic as well as this one. What if we were to make a program that made it so you put in the coordinates of the clue and it shows you where it's at on the map.
I know it's from Tip.It, but I mean..as long as we don't snake the coding or anything from and made our own, wouldn't that be ok? I think that'd really work for us.
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| Makoto |
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QUOTE . . . the absence of topics with some REAL purpose/meaning, creating more conversation (like this one here), drives away people, there's a lot of people who want to discuss large matters, and if they don't find something, they'll probably leave. . . .
That's something that the people of the forum will have to accept. They have to stimulate conversation while asking a question, something that not only adds value to reading the boards but makes you think a little better than the usual RS Maths exercises.
QUOTE When the website is complete, we can then move onto the community. I believe the xenophobia is there because of the lack of proper English usage. You can tackle this problem at two angles: the new members, or the existing members.
* For newer members, we could enact a rule on using proper English all the time, but that would be drastic. I suggest making a post on what type of post is recommended and what is not. The problem is, not many people would read these kinds of posts. * The root of hostility is the existing members. We are not exactly as tolerant as other fansites, which scares potential members away. Even though we have a rule against flaming, it is possible to enforce it much more strictly.
A rule on proper English? That'd be interesting. I'll talk to Baakalor and discuss it with the other moderators to see what they think. Yes, proper English would not only give them an edge in the gaming community but earn them infinitely more respect.
As for the older members and hostility, perhaps it's time to change our ways and be more accepting to others?
QUOTE I don't read the boards as much as the rest of you, so it may be distorted in my eyes, but I do see more spam around lately. More people banned <10 posts, etc. Mysticallity is 100% right (in my case at least) about it being the mauling of the English language that makes me dislike new members most.
More ammo for a rule on proper English, maybe?
QUOTE Well, i think the key is speed. About quest guides runeweb dont have a problem, geo usually make 1 in the same day its released. When a new quest is released i bet a lot of people go to fansites looking for the guide, whoever make it faster will get an advantage. Same to skills, as Cky said about hunter. Another thing we really need is the treasure trail guide, im sure it attract a lot of people. In the skills guide should be tips about fastest way to train. Some guides have it but not all. Problem is, who have time to do all of this?
Remember Seiferoth? Before he departed, he was the one that wrote almost all of the quest guides, yet he left it open for anyone else to try and write one. Geo is not the official person to write quest guides (as anyone can do it as long as they're cohesive), so I encourage anyone to write a quest guide, especially the day it is released. 
QUOTE I used to visit Runehq a lot, but it has changed for the worse. I was one of the first 300 members, and back then it was great. We didn't have too many people and we all knew each other. Now, tonnes of poorly made guides are being churned out, most of which are either useless or common sense.
Just for laughs, we took a look at their "Special Reports" and saw that they had a guide for Tutorial Island. TUTORIAL ISLAND. That is one thing I hate...too many guides. If you're going to do a guide on RW, do what we ask you to and not something that is easily common sense. 
QUOTE Here's an idea. If your sentence is going to start with "An idea I got from RSC/Tip.It/Runevillage is..." Or anything else of the sort, just don't say it. I'd rather see the site go under than succeed by stealing ideas.
Thanks Twilight. No more of that nonsense please.
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Thanks to you all, we've seen a surge in activity lately. Keep working hard and don't forget to lend a hand where you think would help!
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| Cky |
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Well I took the guide idea to heart, and have been working a lot lately on writing guides.
Done 6 working on 7 and 8.
The whole proper English rule, what are you nuts? If you haven't seen already there are several twelve year old children here, and there will be more, I don't and I hope you wouldn't expect them to speak in proper English.
I believe one should be instated on Post topics only, not just regular posts, because regular posts usually don't consist of more than one or two sentences, unless it's a topic with a sentence guideline, like this one for instance.
If you post a regular topic, please use the best English you can, and make sure it's something worth posting, in my opinion, every new topic that gets started, has to do with "Your Favorite ...." they are good fun posts, but not when they're done to death.
Which brings me to my next point, due to the fact that there are a lot of those Topics, why not make a poll forum like RuneNews? I remember that forum, it was very active and fun if the poll was good.
And it may not be useful right now, but, an IRC-Help forum and IRC related things forum could be useful in the future, because if we can get a lot more people in IRC, that means more random people checking the Channel List and seeing ours, and may lead to more forum members. Just a thought.
Thats all for now.
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I'm not sure about enforcing a proper English rule. Not everyone has English as their first language.
Unless they type in "1337-speak", that's when it gets annoying.
I'm not for banning people/enforcing a rule, but I am for correcting them, and letting them now. Maybe a warning.
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| Loggy |
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Uhh just because I wanted to post this somewhere, look out for all the following from content, all around the same time, and somewhat near:
- Hunter Guide - Mini-Games - Miscellaneous Guides (Transportaton Guide as well) - Updated Armor & Weapons for Combat, Magic, Ranged and Prayer [God Armours OF ALL KINDS] [Decorative Armor Guide] - Treasure Trails (probably the last out of the above)
I'd also like to say holy shit to the people that started pumping out guides when I made that list.
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| Cky |
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QUOTE(Loggy @ Dec 5 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]81360[/snapback] Uhh just because I wanted to post this somewhere, look out for all the following from content, all around the same time, and somewhat near:
- Hunter Guide - Mini-Games - Miscellaneous Guides (Transportaton Guide as well) - Updated Armor & Weapons for Combat, Magic, Ranged and Prayer [God Armours OF ALL KINDS] [Decorative Armor Guide] - Treasure Trails (probably the last out of the above)
I'd also like to say holy shit to the people that started pumping out guides when I made that list.
*COUGHnoproblemloggyCOUGH*
But seriously, RW did answer Loggy's magical call of guidemakeyness.
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| Makoto |
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I'm very pleased that everyone is helping out, like I said earlier. Now we face the problem of getting our name out. I'd like to see suggestions on that.
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| Cky |
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Well even though you said Firenimmo would disprove of putting RW on a Runescape toplist, it would still get our name out.
Many people visit toplists each day, and if those statistics from before are correct, we should be ranked higher than most other fansites doing it.
I also am willing to pay for a Google Advertising spot on their website for RW, only if it would help get members.
As for new guides, I just completed my tenth the other day (well Sorta Completed it) Now I'm going to work with all of my unfinished ones and add stuff that needs to be added until they are all complete.
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| Dxgr8ter |
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Here are my suggestions for improving activity / why activity is so low now:
- As I believe the main medium for spreading the availability of RW to new members is word of mouth, existing members should be encouraged to tell their friends etc.
- Incomplete nature of main page + the fact that it says BETA discourages people continuing
- The size of the main page and the design of the links: Maybe have a more prominent link to the forums. At the moment I think the design of the main page looks cluttered (where there is writing) but also has lots of unused space which could be used to improve the layout of the links to the various parts of the website/forum etc. [this deters me from using the site as it is more difficult to navigate through than the other sites]
- I agree with the person that said runeweb needs to be innovative to get numbers up. Quick release of quests is one way which I think is already being done adequately at the moment.
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| Cky |
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I'm still thinking a clan forum would do well also.
I mean, half the new members that join, just go strait to the Clan Topic, or post a clan advert in the wrong place.
A clan forum would eliminate some of the messiness of the topic being cluttered together, as well as provide some legitimate discussion for clans.
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