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 Dec 2 2006, 10:50 PM | Post #16 |
 
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As for the price guides, and stuff, I'd say, what Dilbert said, make a big post about what stuff we need and we don't need and let the members get on it, they don't have to, but willing and true rw friends would.
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Dec 2 2006, 11:49 PM | Post #17 |
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You say get more guides out, hire more staff; believe me, I KNOW, and we're working on guides, and some individuals on the team aren't and haven't been productive, but I assure, we're always slowly working on something. Add more content, you say? What a great idea! I haven't thought of that before, and I haven't tried it yet only to find that some newmembers don't work much either, or people can't join! Thanks for the suggestion. Believe me, I know what needs done, and what to do, and I'm trying to do it.
The only good comment I heard was compiling a list of things we can't work on at the moment but would be helpful, and then release it and see if some community members can't work on it. In fact, I think I'll do that later.
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Dec 3 2006, 01:00 AM | Post #18 |
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QUOTE(Dilbert26 @ Dec 2 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]80857[/snapback]
IRC: This really doesnt help attract members but our irc is pretty damn bad. I rarely go in irc and the very rare times that I do, all I see is flaming and never about runescape. Im not saying that irc has to be all about runescape, but pretyt much all of the active irc users dont even play. That is where a separate channel could come in to play. If the active irc users use a different channel, #runeweb would be more on-topic and less flaming. There would not be many members in it if we had a separate channel, but then we could advertise it more and with less flaming, more ppl would chat in it, including me.
I don't want to split up the channel. IRC != the forums. Besides, IRC hasn't always been the icon for newer people to come in, it's been a tool for instant conversation/help to the forums. Not to mention a decent place to chill if you can manage it.
As the "feudal lord" of IRC (I say this because Firenimmo, Splatman and Catatifish are all ranked higher than me still), I do decide what goes on, what to add, what to delete, who to promote. But I cannot change the firm roots of the oldschool IRC; to have fun, joke and even get a little crude. Setting +G in the channel (for those that don't know, that turns on the major word filter) would not only generate nothing but <censored> across the conversation, but take away from the friendly atmosphere that we've grown accustomed to.
I reiterate that IRC is a tool to be used for conversation instantly with Staff or other members of RW. It's not always about RuneScape, which is good since a 100% RS channel would drive you insane faster than ours.
QUOTE(Loggy @ Dec 2 2006, 04:49 PM) [snapback]80893[/snapback]
...but when it comes to content, I'd hate to sound harsh, but you really don't know what you're talking about. ...
Loggy couldn't have said it better. I've worked on content (still do on and off, when I have some spare minutes or if something needs a touch-up), and the situation is nowhere near as easy as "add more members". What we could do, which Loggy is hopefully doing, is draw up a list of what needs to be done and how the community can aid us. You don't have to be on Staff to help the site; you can submit a guide for something that doesn't exist and Staff would just reword, reparse, add pictures and format it to the RuneWeb style.
QUOTE(T-Ball @ Dec 2 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]80863[/snapback]
Another big factor that prevents RW from gaining popularity is the lack of guides we have. Forums like Tip.it and RuneHQ have guides for anything and everything. Though runeweb has by far the best guides imo, we jsut dont have as many of them, (I know we are working on them, I'm just saying).
Our lack of guides, maybe. Too many guides, in the case of RuneHQ? No thanks, that's something we've been trying to avoid for a while. We also cannot bandwagon and copy other sites in the way of the way content is presented, either.
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One of the things that I'd like to do is build up more of a reputation for something...but I'm not quite sure what we could possibly use to build our rep up. Another note is that our xenophobic roots stem from RN; in order to expand slightly more to growth and be a great site we'll have to let go of that part of us.
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Dec 3 2006, 01:09 AM | Post #19 |
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On Topic: I used to visit Runehq a lot, but it has changed for the worse. I was one of the first 300 members, and back then it was great. We didn't have too many people and we all knew each other. Now, tonnes of poorly made guides are being churned out, most of which are either useless or common sense.
I joined this forum, due to its awesome guides (really they are a lot better than the Runehq ones) and the fact that there arn't too many people, so it is a tight-nit community. Runeweb does not have a lot of members currently, and thats what i think has given its charm and appeal to me.
There's my two pence.
Blackdimoned
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Dec 3 2006, 02:39 AM | Post #20 |
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Anyways, the way to make Runeweb bigger is to stick to what we have. Right now that is the Signatures, Skill guides, and Quest guides. To grow bigger, we need to get our name out there, and the best way to do that is via the signatures. This means, sign up on all those forums, put up one of the Runeweb signatures, and constructively post like crazy. Don't spam though, it could reflect back negatively. Once the people see the signatures, they will come to our site, see the great guides, and tell their friends.
What's next? We need unique things that other sites don't have. If you've got an idea for something, post it. Nothing is too crazy, whether or not we would be able to do anything with it is one thing, but the more ideas the better.
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Dec 3 2006, 03:40 AM | Post #21 |
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QUOTE( @ Dec 2 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]80904[/snapback]
Our lack of guides, maybe. Too many guides, in the case of RuneHQ? No thanks, that's something we've been trying to avoid for a while. We also cannot bandwagon and copy other sites in the way of the way content is presented, either.
I'm not saying that we need that many guides, I'm just saying that them having all those guides makes it look like they have a good forum & fan base, so more members. From a glance, forums like Tip.it and RuneHQ have us beat, but as for content quality and quality of members, we have are one of, if not, the best out there.
I'm not saying we have to copy other forums and fill our site with utterly useless content either, I'm just saying at this point, we do not have enough. I know our content staff if working on getting more guides up, and I applaud them for that, they are doing a hell of a job, and when they are done, Runeweb will be one of the best forums around.
This post has been edited by T-Ball: Dec 3 2006, 03:40 AM
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Dec 3 2006, 03:51 AM | Post #22 |
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Frankly, I think Runeweb is seen as, at least by most people, a dynamic signature producer and about no more. Sucks for those people who don't bother with the actual community of RW. Personally, I like the fact that RW is a smaller community and a smaller Helpsite. It's got the same quality of all the others (be it some content isn't here where other sites have it), plus a better online community. It's not all hussle bussle like at tip.it or rsc or runehq.
If the lack of posting and what not is a problem...I don't understand why, as long there's some sort of an interest in this place, which there is. I don't even use the other site forums anymore because there's too many people online at one time and the topics move too quickly. Runeweb here is like a cult favorite of RS fansites =P.
But...if I must give suggestions on how to make it better...advertise more, add RW to the RS Toplist sites..I'm sure it'd be near the top with all it's daily hits.
And, well this one's to anyone in general, but if you have friends that don't already use RW, then why not suggest it to them? I'M NOT PROMOTING ADVERTISING PUBLICLY ON RS! But to your closer friends who wouldn't be sticklers about that rule...just throw it out there.
Another thing that could be added could be some sort of an actual clan recruiting and/or waring discussion rather than a topic with a bunch of clans on there..That right there, in my opinion takes away from RW greatly. You put in a clan forum and start advertising on clan forums, getting them to sponsor you and what not, you get some nice traffic. And how to get them to adversite you ask? Make it a rule for them to put somewhere visibly on their website/forum a link to RW. RSC does it I believe, or at least last I ran a clan they did..Seemed to work a bit with my clan, a good amount of them joined RSC and still use it.
I hope I helped.
Slim50
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Dec 3 2006, 04:05 AM | Post #23 |
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QUOTE(Slim50 @ Dec 2 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]80936[/snapback]
Another thing that could be added could be some sort of an actual clan recruiting and/or waring discussion rather than a topic with a bunch of clans on there..That right there, in my opinion takes away from RW greatly. You put in a clan forum and start advertising on clan forums, getting them to sponsor you and what not, you get some nice traffic. And how to get them to adversite you ask? Make it a rule for them to put somewhere visibly on their website/forum a link to RW. RSC does it I believe, or at least last I ran a clan they did..Seemed to work a bit with my clan, a good amount of them joined RSC and still use it.
I hope I helped.
Slim50
I think it is time we added something like that, as a matter of fact. Granted, RSC has a lot of major clans that use it, but we can grab new little clans as they grow.
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Dec 3 2006, 06:05 AM | Post #24 |
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QUOTE(Slim50 @ Dec 2 2006, 08:51 PM) [snapback]80936[/snapback]
But...if I must give suggestions on how to make it better...advertise more, add RW to the RS Toplist sites..I'm sure it'd be near the top with all it's daily hits.
Topsites are out. I have this hunch that Firenimmo wouldn't approve.
Advertising amongst your friends is out, too. That's encouraging someone to break a rule. We did that once back during the first DP and I got banned for it myself. We were among all friends yet I got reported somehow...
Thanks for your ideas though; I love the one about your clan thread. It might generate some more traffic.
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Dec 3 2006, 01:02 PM | Post #25 |
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Something that could build our reputation and something not many fansites have, if any, is that beloved toolkit we had at RN. Not sure if any sites have a toolkit...only thing I can think of is zybezs client. No need to elaborate further on this toolkit as i'm sure you all know what could go in it.
Being in The Others, the best skilling clan in rs, it gave me an idea. We have many events weekly ranging from fishing-wooductting-agility. Some days there are a bad turnout but most are great. The great thing about it is that it takes no organisation at all. You can just pin a post with the information of where, when and what it is and people can show up themselves. It's fun training a skill with more people and they'll be able to get to know eachother and even make a few friends.
That would just be a little fun thing to have and hopefully once more people join the forums, we can get huge turnouts. I'm aware that you can't advertise rw on rs and I advise nobody to try. Basically, i'm just saying we should have more events here at rw, on a regular basis. Events out of the usual (kq, dk, ce,kbd etc). We could just have skill events, parades, iron wars, ANYTHING! People like to see a forum host events and it could even attract people without even advertising.
This post has been edited by Dilbert26: Dec 3 2006, 01:03 PM
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Dec 3 2006, 04:07 PM | Post #26 |
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Of course, this may be an idea for later when we actually have more people here being active, but that gold that pays for whoever could go towards RW hosted drop parties or even iron wars or some sort of thing like that..
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Dec 3 2006, 06:06 PM | Post #27 |
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Dec 3 2006, 06:20 PM | Post #28 |
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It sounds like a good idea, but I don't really like the sound of it. Not many people could be auctioned off here...except maybe Geo1988...
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Dec 3 2006, 06:21 PM | Post #29 |
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What we need is to find the best suited people, have them apply in their best words, and go from there, because whether or not you guys want to admit it, there is TOO MUCH SPAM. More moderators and staff members would not hurt RW at all, except for making other people jealous, which they will ultimately have to deal with, because there are several members here at RW, including Dilbert, who I believe fill the moderator position requirements 10 fold, Dilbert has been at RN and RW since 2002, and has been nothing but a good honest member.
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Dec 3 2006, 06:42 PM | Post #30 |
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Secondly, about the Topsite thing, I don't think Firenimmo's disapproval of it should mean much. Of course, now that I say that he'll appear again, but that isn't the point. He isn't that big a part of Runeweb anymore anyways.
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